RE: [MV] Re-importation of US MV's-BATF response

From: Gordon W. Bell (bellsurveying@smithville.net)
Date: Thu Jul 05 2001 - 08:46:23 PDT


Here's a real STUPID question or thought what ever but hey, I'm having a
stupid day and it is my GOD given right to be STUPID as an AMERICAN. That's
what yesterday was about right?

Anyway.

Has anybody thought about writing Colin Powell on this one? We have had a
change of leadership since this little boon dog gale was imposed. Colin is a
pretty reasonable sort of fella', has a little bit of respect for what these
things did, he also has a dislike for Bureaucratic Bull hockey! Maybe just
maybe, a well worded letter to the new boss would do some good. I have it on
good authority he is taking a hands on approach to "small" issues such as
this and on other issues has had come to Jesus talks with folks.

Just a stupid thought but like I said I am having a stupid day. A few more
like this and I get a bottle of bleach for the hair.

Gordie

-----Original Message-----
From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]On Behalf
Of Dean L. Kellogg, Jr
Sent: 05 July, 2001 10:04
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] Re-importation of US MV's-BATF response

>>And for that matter I thought one
>> of us on this list already fought this battle and got it OKed ??
>>
>I believe that is correct, however, this is for non-US SME. As far as I
can
>deduce from the original fracas when your F6 permits were withheld is that
>two distinct and separate issues exist.
>
>1. SME and other vehicles of non-US manufacture was temporarily denied a
F6
>clearance which has now been lifted.
>
>2. ALL US manufactured and exported MV's fall under the auspices of some
>lend-lease legislation/controls for war time and post war vehicles as
>defined by Ike himself back in the 50's I believe, in that they could never
>be re-imported into the US.
>
>I believe your are battering yourselves on the latter stumbling block
which,
>owing to is longevity in force, seems an impossible nut to crack, however,
>go at it and I wish you success.
>
>Richard
>Southampton - England

Listees,

Richard is EXACTLY CORRECT. This issue was solved in regards to non-US
origin SME (siginficant military equipment), but not for US-origin
SME.......SO T-55's can be imported into the USA with Form 6's but to
return an M8 Greyhound to the US requires State Department Clearance AND
the Form 6. I have been unable to get a clear answer to the question of
whether the ATF would consider issuing an F6 to a PRIVATE CITIZEN even if
the citizen had the State Dept approval. ATF has given approvals for
groups (i.e., musemus and veterans groups) to bring gear back (remember
ther LST that came back to the USA recently....actually required an ACT OF
CONGRESS!), but I know of no apprlvals issued to private citizens for
re-importing US-origin SME (armor, armour, amphibians, etc).

Can anyone correct my ignorance?

dean

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Dean L. Kellogg, Jr., MD, PhD
Department of Medicine
The University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio
7703 Floyd Curl Drive
San Antonio, Texas 78229-3900
(210) 617-5311 FAX (210) 617-5312 e-mail:kelloggd@uthscsa.edu
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