Re: [MV] [MVlist] S1438 has passed Section 1062 included!

From: Floyd Petri (fpetri@eastex.net)
Date: Thu Oct 04 2001 - 13:18:05 PDT


Does anyone know exactly know how S 1438 was amended prior to the vote
because there were no NAYs to this vote.

Floyd

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron" <rojoha@mediaone.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] [MVlist] S1438 has passed Section 1062 included!

> Go Here for the roll call of S. 1438:
>
> http://www.senate.gov/legislative/vote1071/vote_00290.html
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> Short Form:
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> Vote Summary
> Vote Number: 290 Vote Date: October 2, 2001, 04:40 PM
> The Vote Was On: SO. 1438 As Amended
> Required for Majority: 1/2 Vote Result: Bill Passed
>
> Measure Number: SO. 1438
> Measure Title: A bill to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2002 for
> military activities of the Department of Defense, for military
> constructions, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to
> prescribe personnel strengths for such fiscal year for the Armed Forces,
and
> for other purposes.
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>
> Vote Counts: YEAs 99
> NAYs 0
> Not Voting 1
>
> Can't seem to find what the " as Amended" version is yet.
>
> Ron
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Rose" <m151a
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> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 1:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] [MVlist] S1438 has passed Section 1062 included!
>
>
> > I emailed Senator Craig, Senator Crapo, and my congressmen to inform
them
> of
> > the injustice of this bill. Senator Craig has been in the Senate for a
> > while, and he understands this bill and how detrimental it is to our
> > freedom.
> >
> > I logged on to the Senate home page and could not find the voting
records
> > for this bill. Anyone have it?
> >
> > Jason
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard Lathrop <lathrrs@snip.net>
> > To: mil-veh@mil-veh.org <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>; MVlist@yahoogroups.com
> > <MVlist@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:41 AM
> > Subject: [MVlist] S1438 has passed Section 1062 included!
> >
> >
> > >This is from the Congressional Record on the S1438 debate. At least
> someone
> > understands our concerns. My senators would not even return my phone
> calls.
> > >
> > >
> > >Mr. CRAIG. Mr. President (Addressing President of the Senate), in
> reviewing
> > S. 1438, I came across a provision that would have disastrous
> consequences,
> > no matter what its original intentions might have been.
> > >
> > >I am talking about section 1062, making it unlawful for individuals to
> > possess any ``significant military equipment'' ever owned by the
> Department
> > of Defense that is not demilitarized and giving the Attorney General the
> > authority to seize such items. ``Significant military equipment'' can
mean
> a
> > wide variety of goods; for example, it can include military vehicles,
> > aircraft, ammunition, firearms and parts. ``Demilitarization'' can mean
a
> > number of things, too, including cutting or destruction.
> > >
> > >The Department of Defense already can, and does, demilitarize some
> military
> > equipment before surplusing it. I am not advocating a change in that
> current
> > authority.
> > >
> > >However, section 1062 of S. 1438 goes well beyond this current
authority.
> > By making possession of such equipment illegal, it would create tens of
> > thousands of lawbreakers overnight, veterans, collectors, sportspeople,
> even
> > museums that have been legally purchasing surplus equipment from the
> > government for decades. Worse, this section provides for the
confiscation
> > and destruction of items that are now private property.
> > >
> > >Consider the chaos and injustice that would result from enactment of
this
> > provision. Veterans service organizations across the country who have
> > acquired military firearms to use for ceremonial purposes, they would be
> > criminals. Americans who learned to shoot and acquired a firearm through
> the
> > government's own Division of Civilian Marksmanship program would find
> > themselves being served with a warrant by the same government for the
same
> > firearm. Museum displays or airshows featuring military vehicles or
crafts
> > would be threatened. A firearm containing a military surplus replacement
> > part would now be subject to confiscation and destruction or begin
> rendered
> > inoperable. In my own state, a collector of military Jeeps would risk
> losing
> > his investment and his collection through no fault of his own.
> > >
> > >This provision is breathtaking in its reach and unfairness, capturing
> > millions of items and their law-abiding owners. This is why an even
> > less-onerous provision in the last DOD Authorization bill was dropped
> during
> > the House-Senate conference on that bill. That same conclusion must be
> > reached by the conferees on S. 1438; this provision must be dropped in
> order
> > to prevent certain harm.
> > >
> > >
> > >We need to redouble our efforts and concentrate on the Armed services
> > committee members as this bill now goes to conference with the House
> > version.
> > >
> > >If you did not send a letter or make a call take the time to do it now.
> The
> > next one might be to your lawyer when they come to pick up whatever they
> > think you should not have.
> > >
> > >Thanks for your time,
> > >
> > >Rick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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