From: Ted Hils - Ted's Trucks (tedhils@cyber-south.com)
Date: Fri Feb 08 2002 - 08:32:33 PST
Nice job of investigative reporting, Rick. Sounds like CadillacGage either
doesn't know what they are talking about or they are trying to bluff (read:
bully) their way through.
Ted Hils
Ted's Trucks 'N Stuff
RR 2 Box 66H
Midland City, Al 36350
334-983-1092
Mon.- Fri., 8-5 CST
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard Lathrop" <lathrrs@snip.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] [MVlist] CadillacGage.Com
>
> Good idea I would recommend that anyone interested in this thread,direct
there attention to the following link.
>
>
http://www.eff.org/IP/Internet_address_disputes/Ford_v_GreatDomains/20020110
_eff_pr.html
>
> Ford sued website owners claiming that they infringed on copyrighted names
vintagejaguar, etc. The court stated: "neither registering, nor warehousing,
nor trafficking in a domain name that incorporates a protected trademark is
alone sufficient to support claims of trademark infringement or dilution.
Both causes of action require use of a trademark in connection with goods or
services, which, in the cybersquatting context, generally will require
evidence that the domain was used to host a website from which goods or
services have been offered over the Internet."
>
> This is an issue that effects anyone out there that has domain names
related to our much loved green things.
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Rikk Rogers <rkltd@swbell.net>
> Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 09:51:31 -0600
>
> >Call CNN first and see what they have to say.
> >It is an interesting news item, and your use of the site has been for
> >education, and the advancement of a historical item.
> >This is not a case of domain squatting, and I'll pitch $20 into the
defense
> >fund.
> >
> >
> >Rikk Rogers - RK Lion LTD.
> >(580)762-3157 rkltd@swbell.net
> >http://home.swbell.net/rkltd/
> >-M35A2- -M38- MVPA -22345-
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]On
> >Behalf Of Richard Lathrop
> >Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 2:30 AM
> >To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> >Subject: Re: [MV] [MVlist] CadillacGage.Com
> >
> >
> >Jack and other list members,
> >
> >I wish to thank you for your kind words of support. Jack is correct what
> >they are alleging is domain squatting. I have never had an issue with the
> >ultimate ownership of the domain name. I was more upset by the tone
rather
> >then the subject of the request.
> >
> >Back when I set the site up Textron Marine and Land had zero interest in
the
> >site it has only been recently that this has even shown up on there
radar. I
> >could allege that by posting thier sales brochures online for 4 years I
was
> >giving them free advertising. Since the site was never intended to
generate
> >profit and was simply a site to tell the story of a product there was no
> >violation of trademark or copyright laws.
> >
> >Several people have suggested trading it for an armored car or access to
> >thier records. This request was met with a threat of unloosing the
corporate
> >lawyers on me.
> >
> >My whole take on the situation is that suddenly in the security concious
US
> >following September 11th they want people to find them at this web
address
> >rather then a simple website.
> >
> >I have nether the time nor finances to fight this battle. The site will
come
> >down on Sunday.
> >
> >Rick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> >From: Cougarjack@aol.com
> >Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 01:55:42 EST
> >
> >>I believe there have already been court cases dealing with this issue.
It
> >is refered to as "Domain squatting" when you register a domain name
that's
> >unique to someone else's trade or service mark. If they ultimately want
it,
> >the current doctrine seems to say that they get it. I'm not aware of
anyone
> >who has won this fight, or has succeeded in selling the URL or collecting
> >any revenue whatsoever on it. In the early days of the web, certain
> >visionaries flocked to register such famous names as Coca Cola, General
> >Motors, etc. In the beginning, a few of these fellows managed to sell the
> >urls for moderate amounts of cash. But as the practice caught on, and
CEO's
> >began to understand the value of the web, corporate America responded as
> >they usually do, with busloads of lawyers and pockets full of corrupt
> >Congressmen. As a result, most of these have been forced by the courts to
> >surrender them.
> >> Sorry Rick! (there's always Amway!)
> >>
> >>In a message dated Thu, 7 Feb 2002 5:53:25 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Rikk
> >Rogers <rkltd@swbell.net> writes:
> >>
> >>> You have time and sweat invested in the URL, it is worth a Bunch to
them.
> >>> 1. you could make them pay out the nose for it.
> >>> 2. you could rent space on your URL to them.
> >>> 3. you could make em hire you as their web developer, as a contractor.
> >>>
> >>> Just don't give it to em w/o a fight, and do get a copyright and
patents
> >>> lawyer.
> >>> And let em know how you feel about the way they have acted.
> >>
> >>
> >>===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list===
> >>To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org>
> >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to
<mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org>
> >>To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>
> >>
> >
> >===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list===
> >To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org>
> >To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to <mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org>
> >To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>
> >
> >
> >===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list===
> >To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org>
> >To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to <mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org>
> >To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>
> >
>
> ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list===
> To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org>
> To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to <mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org>
> To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>
>
This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.4 : Mon Apr 08 2002 - 00:23:39 PDT