From: Floyd Petri (fpetri@eastex.net)
Date: Fri Sep 06 2002 - 10:23:07 PDT
This type of transaction is not what was being discussed. A trade is not a
loan.
Floyd
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Shoop" <shoop19@brick.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 7:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] Big Brother IS watching for sure!
> One correction Floyd......I beg to differ. I own a vehicle with a title
that
> was traded by the CMH...Center of Military History, Automotive and Tank
> Command...in Mich. They dole out the vehicles to the VFW and cities.
>
> They traded this vehicle I have for one thay wanted for a base Museum..and
> gave a title to boot...free and clear....
>
> They can and do .
>
> Jon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Floyd Petri" <fpetri@eastex.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] Big Brother IS watching for sure!
>
>
> > I am retired CID and I was wondering when this was going to happen. It
is
> > important for everyone to know that tanks, artillery and military
weapons
> of
> > war that you see at VFWs, schools or Cities that are on display and the
> such
> > are still owned by the United States Military. It is kind of like if you
> > took your tank, artillery or military vehicle to park it at a theater to
> > advertise a war movie. You would still own it. When the military gives a
> > tank, artillery or military weapon of war end item to a school, VFW,
City
> or
> > what ever for display they retain title to it. It can not be sold or
given
> > away and the government really does not care if they read the fine print
> > when they got it. It is subject to recovery at anytime. I imagine the
CID
> > just wanted to advise you about this while attempting to "look" at what
> may
> > be in plain sight to see if any of it fit the bill of anything missing.
> This
> > is the only category I am discussing so don't confuse it with DRMO or
> other
> > avenues of legal sale. These display pieces were not sold. Only loaned.
> >
> > Floyd
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan Parmley Jr." <artillerydan@prodigy.net>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:01 AM
> > Subject: [MV] Big Brother IS watching for sure!
> >
> >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > Well I had an interesting visit today. It was from CID this is the
> > > military version of the FBI.
> > > A couple of weeks ago I posted a message in regards to adding some web
> > > pages to my sight in regards to helping people find the SN and Mfg of
> > > there vehicle if the data plates were gone.
> > > Well at the bottom of my post I put my usual info of what I had and
that
> > > I was looking for artillery as I collect US towed ordnance and am
> > > currently working on a book about the same. Well the post was red
> > > flagged for "wanting to buy artillery". Well everything I own is
> > > non-operational and will not fire anything anyway, and I have no
desire
> > > to make my guns live and deal with all the paper work to register
them.
> > > These are used for school living history displays, movie rental, and
> > > parades. Besides it would cost $100.00 a round to shoot the things.
> > > It was also brought up that it was "illegal" to buy old artillery
pieces
> > > off of VFWs and the such. This I am still not sure on the legality of
> > > this either way. I have heard many different variations on who can
sell
> > > what and if they originally received it before the 1968 gun act.... so
I
> > > do not know for sure. But be aware that the military CID is interested
> > > in checking the hobby out to see what is out there.
> > > After talking with the guy this sure seemed to be a 9-11 red flag
call.
> > > So obviously watch what you say because a joking comment might wind
you
> > > up with a visit from Big Brother.
> > >
> > > Dan Parmley Jr.
> > > XMVPA-7411
> > > 1952 - USMC M37 - Restored
> > > 1985 - M1009 CUCV - Work in progress
> > > 1968 - M35A2C
> > > 1966 - M114A1E1 APC/ARV - Help, need parts current project
> > > 1956 - M59 APC (FOR SALE) or trade any US towed ordnance
> > > 1943 - M2A2 105mm How. - Restored
> > > 1960 - XM34 Little John Rocket Launcher - Need original rocket
> > > 1941 - BMW R71 - Restored
> > > www.mvdataplates.com
> > > artillerydan@prodigy.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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