Re: [MV] Big Brother IS watching for sure!

From: Floyd Petri (fpetri@eastex.net)
Date: Thu Sep 05 2002 - 22:56:03 PDT


I am retired CID and I was wondering when this was going to happen. It is
important for everyone to know that tanks, artillery and military weapons of
war that you see at VFWs, schools or Cities that are on display and the such
are still owned by the United States Military. It is kind of like if you
took your tank, artillery or military vehicle to park it at a theater to
advertise a war movie. You would still own it. When the military gives a
tank, artillery or military weapon of war end item to a school, VFW, City or
what ever for display they retain title to it. It can not be sold or given
away and the government really does not care if they read the fine print
when they got it. It is subject to recovery at anytime. I imagine the CID
just wanted to advise you about this while attempting to "look" at what may
be in plain sight to see if any of it fit the bill of anything missing. This
is the only category I am discussing so don't confuse it with DRMO or other
avenues of legal sale. These display pieces were not sold. Only loaned.

Floyd

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Parmley Jr." <artillerydan@prodigy.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 12:01 AM
Subject: [MV] Big Brother IS watching for sure!

> Hello all,
>
> Well I had an interesting visit today. It was from CID this is the
> military version of the FBI.
> A couple of weeks ago I posted a message in regards to adding some web
> pages to my sight in regards to helping people find the SN and Mfg of
> there vehicle if the data plates were gone.
> Well at the bottom of my post I put my usual info of what I had and that
> I was looking for artillery as I collect US towed ordnance and am
> currently working on a book about the same. Well the post was red
> flagged for "wanting to buy artillery". Well everything I own is
> non-operational and will not fire anything anyway, and I have no desire
> to make my guns live and deal with all the paper work to register them.
> These are used for school living history displays, movie rental, and
> parades. Besides it would cost $100.00 a round to shoot the things.
> It was also brought up that it was "illegal" to buy old artillery pieces
> off of VFWs and the such. This I am still not sure on the legality of
> this either way. I have heard many different variations on who can sell
> what and if they originally received it before the 1968 gun act.... so I
> do not know for sure. But be aware that the military CID is interested
> in checking the hobby out to see what is out there.
> After talking with the guy this sure seemed to be a 9-11 red flag call.
> So obviously watch what you say because a joking comment might wind you
> up with a visit from Big Brother.
>
> Dan Parmley Jr.
> XMVPA-7411
> 1952 - USMC M37 - Restored
> 1985 - M1009 CUCV - Work in progress
> 1968 - M35A2C
> 1966 - M114A1E1 APC/ARV - Help, need parts current project
> 1956 - M59 APC (FOR SALE) or trade any US towed ordnance
> 1943 - M2A2 105mm How. - Restored
> 1960 - XM34 Little John Rocket Launcher - Need original rocket
> 1941 - BMW R71 - Restored
> www.mvdataplates.com
> artillerydan@prodigy.net
>
>
>
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