Re: [MV] [MV] Who's Vehicle is it?  (was :  Big Brother IS watching for sure!)

From: Jon Shoop (shoop19@brick.net)
Date: Fri Sep 13 2002 - 06:40:56 PDT


Yeah Steve........for sure......

The framers could never have envisioned Television, the
net......radio........using your logic on the 2nd Ammendment.....free
speech will have to be regulated....severely ....and we need to do it right
now..imagine the damage that can be done.......the rights
violated........and destroyed...the mischief and mayhem...............all
because someone can say or claim anything, get on the nightly news around
the world and pass his message an a few minutes........worldwide!

If you would take a few days and read the Federalist Papers........you will
understand...the framers knew what they were doing.......

my rant......God Bless America! Freedom still rings....

Jon

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Grammont" <islander@midmaine.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] [MV] Who's Vehicle is it? (was : Big Brother IS watching
for sure!)

>
>
> >By the way do you know what a bunch of crazy nuts we would look like
> >dashing about in Jeeps, Scout Cars, Deuces and 1/2-3/4 ton Dodge trucks
> >shooting automatic weapons we just might scare them back into the sea if
> >they thought the whole country was as crazy as those on the left and
right
> >coast or even worse when the got to hill country.
>
> I think such people would have a far greater chance of causing fear and
> panic amongst their fellow citizens. The history of armed citizen
> "Partisan" forces is checkered at best (including those of the
> Revolutionary war. They murdered and plundered as well as fought the
> British Army). Call me crazy, but I trust "militias" about as much as I
> trust a dead tree leaning over my house. Sure, it might never fall
> during my ownership of the house, but I wouldn't bet on it.
>
> While I don't trust the government to protect all my rights, I trust my
> fellow neighbor to do so far less. One is at least somewhat accountable
> for its actions, the other is accountable to nobody unless he is out
> gunned. I do not want to live in an environment where my "vote" is
> determined by the weapon I own and the ammo I have stockpiled. Plus, the
> government's voting booths are a LOT safer :-)
>
> BTW, it is utterly pointless to debate the 2nd Ammendment's "true
> meaning". People who spend their whole lives researching this, day in
> and day out, *and* have legal/accademic credentials, can't totally agree
> on the details. However, there is a consensus of sorts that it is not as
> absolute as some people would like it to be. The lack of specifics cuts
> both ways you know... the "right to bear arms" could be interpreted to
> mean "the right to own and posess a black poweder, smooth bore rifle or
> pistol" just as much as it could be "the right to own a Stinger missle".
>
> Steve
>
>
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