From: Greg (czechsix@cox.net)
Date: Tue Oct 01 2002 - 12:15:28 PDT
I say we all go rent the H2's, get the full coverage package, paint them OD,
and see what they can REALLY do on the dirt.
Then return them.
If anyone's in the car rental business, my apologies (sympathies?)
Greg
Vista, CA
OB milveh content: Ok, no bites on records of WC's in the 8th Army. How
about documentation of WC's in desert roles - any time period, any
nationality.
Does anyone have anything interesting out there?
Best damned Rhodesian Ridgeback in the world:
(and not just because she bit Mark P. in the leg..)
Mzirand. 2.27.90-4.17.01
RIP
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Cole" <DavidCole@tk7.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:05 PM
Subject: [MV] hummer, H2 - GM marketing at it's best!
> So what does the Hummer II have over a Tahoe?
>
> I pulled up the website for the hummer II and they show the drive train,
well not exactly all of the drivetrain. They only show the front drive
train. It sure looks
> like a GM IFS setup to me. Then I clicked on the rear suspension link -
whoops, I guess they don't want you to see that one. They just show a
Hummer II
> with a wheel up in the air. The fact is that it has a 5 link suspension
with coil springs over a solid axle just like it's GM brother. Along with
that come the low
> ground clearance of a hanging differential. No geared hubs here folks.
This suspension is only a bit more sophisticated than my 78 Chevy van.
>
> Lets face it the Hummer II is a simple exploitation of the Hummer name
hung on a look a like vehicle made to look like the real thing.
>
> Motor Trend, (the magazine that is available to the highest bidder) is of
course testing the Hummer II. I read some of their reviews. As informative
as ever:
> excerpt - ate two tacos, and drove 35 miles, got 10 mpg at 65 mph, blah
blah blah. I wonder how much that advertisement cost GM.
>
> I don't believe that the Hummer II is nearly as capable as the Hummer H1
on the trail. The crawl ratio is 33:1. It has poor ground clearance. It
gets 10 mpg.
> Sure it has advanced traction controls, but so do a lot of minivans.
>
> I'm sure that it would be quite adequate pulling an Airstream trailer down
the pike. Or doing some light trail rides, but that's about all.
>
> I'm sure it's more comfortable, but so is my Ford Taurus.
>
> Let's not forget it has Hummer on the front grill. That has to be worth
at least $20K.
>
> (I'm willing to paint "Hummer on the front of my 78 van and let it go for
say.... a measely $20K) . Save 30K and have more room!
>
> Dave
> M51
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
> 9/30/2002 2:30:09 PM, "Dave Ball" <vought@msn.com> wrote:
>
> >Recently at Moab and Durango the H1 And yes H2 Hummers were seen going
thru
> >the canyons and guess what the H2 went everywhere the H1 did and it is
just
> >as capable on the trail and most agree more comfortable over the road.
> >The H2 in some cases did have to take a slightly different line but they
> >still got through unscathed sorry there is another Hummer.
> >The H2 had no problems with Lions Back or Double Whammy and even Rocker
> >Knocker on the Pritchet Canyon Trail.
> >Any of you boys want to try these obstacles in a 6X6... thought not.
> >And Ryan bring your Ferret on out next year I would like to see it do a
> >wheel stand going up the steps.
> >There was a Defender 90 there he got through as well... yes there is a
land
> >Rover that is capable of going anywhere the H1 goes as well. Actually
there
> >was places the H1 could not follow the Def 90 and H2 due to it fat width
so
> >think of the H2 as a H1 on a diet a fifty thousand dollar diet.
> >
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Ryan Gill" <rmgill@mindspring.com>
> >To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> >Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 7:24 AM
> >Subject: Re: [MV] hummer, H2
> >
> >
> >At 10:18 PM -0400 9/29/02, Walter Keller wrote:
> >>The H2 is a Humvee with its balls CUT OFF - I knew it was a pee
> >>whipped when I saw that straight rear axle. :-)
> >>Walter Keller
> >
> >They put a straight rear axle on the back? Why is it still as
> >expensive as before? I'll bet they took the portal axles off too
> >didn't they.
> >
> >I can't wait to taunt one of the H2 owners from my ferret.
> >--
> >--
> >Ryan Gill rmgill@SPAMmindspring.com
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