Re: [MV] Fuel Question Diesel vs jp-8

From: Cliff Smith (mtnbikinssgt@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Oct 06 2002 - 17:52:12 PDT


uuuhh hhuummm, thats me clearing my throat!  I stand Corrected!  Or at least the subject is a little more clearer.  Thanks Sarge!

Cliff Smith

'70 Tan USMC M151A2
>From: "micdunn"
>Reply-To: "micdunn"
>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" ,"Cliff Smith"
>Subject: Re: [MV] Fuel Question Diesel vs jp-8
>Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 18:55:37 -0500
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>Cliff and List,
>I was in several ground tactical mobile units in Germany from '77 through '98 and we changed to JP-8 in 1990. We used it in place of diesel (DF-4 & DF-8) in all of our vehicles. We had Mercedes, Opels, M35's, M49's, M-900 series, IH school busses, forklifts, Jet Turbine generators, tent stoves, TACQ generators, and perhaps another dozen applications. One of the hats I wore made me the chief of the motor pool (amongst other things). Yes, we changed the fuel filters, but that was a 180 day PMI (preventive maintenance inspection) task that we had to perform anyway. The only consistent comment that I had from operators was that they thought they had more power and slightly less fuel mileage. With over 500 engines we had zero failures between 1990 and 1998! I personally noticed that the engine internals appeared cleaner after using JP-8. You asked if aviation fuel is compatible with diesel engines? JP-8 stands for Jet Propulsion type 8. We also used JP-8 in our F-16's, F-15's and C-5's.
>Do not confuse aviation gasoline with aviation fuel. Aviation gasoline is a very high octane gasoline used in piston engined aircraft. Aviation fuel, JP-8, (sometimes called aviation kerosene) is used in jet turbine engines, whether they are fighter aircraft, transport aircraft, helicopters or turbine generators. And of course, diesel engines.
>My 2 cents..
>-Sarge
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> From: Cliff Smith
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> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 9:45 PM
> Subject: [MV] Fuel Question Diesel vs jp-8
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> List;
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> Question just hit me. The Marines (and the armed services) are moving to a new fuel, and have been for about a year. The fuel is JP-8. The only change to using this new fuel is changing fuel filters that are clogged with the old diesel sludge. I have heard that this is a long term problem, as a result of NO lube in the fuel of a diesel engine. Most of the old timer mechanics (not military) have said that in a few years we will be replacing engines due to burnt internal items. There was a post earlier about BioFuel, can this equate to the same thing? How about Aviation fuel, is it compatable with the diesel engine. I have heard many types of 'homegrown' fuels and additives to be able to do this, like adding a qt or 2 of dexron to some fuel to make it 'lube' the engine still. All of you Fuelies out there give us some advice on this. Can diesel be replaced with a better fuel? Is it worth the hassle? Or should we ju
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> Cliff Smith
> '70 Tan USMC M151A2
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