From: Dave Ball (vought@msn.com)
Date: Mon Oct 07 2002 - 23:40:42 PDT
You guys are taking this a little too far if you both collect Military
vehicles and you both like to display them for the public to see you both
have the same interests and should be friends.
This is the Military Vehicles List so that is the topic not dogs and women
or men in uniform.
It is counter productive to place limitations on any event unless it is
being organized for a specific period in history and even then it would be
correct to add room for the other periods.
Really if I wanted to bring eight horses and a chariot it is still a
military vehicle and there are some who may enjoy seeing a chariot race.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: <ddoyle9570@aol.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] Military Only Zone-Response
> In a message dated Mon, 7 Oct 2002 11:12:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,
soldierboy440@yahoo.com writes:
>
> > Well, I was the guy who sent out the email saying the
> > event had to WWII vehicles and the people dressed in
> > WWII clothing, so the target is here if you want to
> > take a swing at me.
> >
>
> I was not aware that I was taking a swing at anyone. The email said that
to fully participate, one must be in WWII garb, and have a WWII
vehicle....or follow a sufficient distance behind in a separate section, or
not participate. I simply choose not to participate. That was one of the
options, was it not. I did not criticize those who choose to participate,
nor those who organized this event. In fact, a follow up posting by me even
commended those who organize these things.
>
> I have a problem, however, with some other folks, who unlike yourself,
drop the "buts" on particpants after they have already gone to the trouble
to show up, rather than as you did, lay out the ground rules on the front
end. You convoy, and sincerely have fun, and I will stay at home, and have
fun too, and we will both be friends.
>
> BUT, if you had asked me to particpate, and I drove my M series vehicle
the several hundred miles there while wearing BDU or blue jeans, THEN said
"Oh, that's not WWII, you gotta follow 4 miles behind," then that swing you
mentioned earlier would be deserved :)
>
> >
> > My thoughts were...why not try and get more MVPA
> > participation by opening it up and giving them
> > opportunities to bring WWII vehicles. You scratch our
> > back and we scratch yours. A win-win for everyone who
> > can play..right?
> >
> > Well, I'm sorry if you are somehow offended that your
> > M35 Duece or M151 can't play, but it doesn't fit the
> > intent of the event.
>
> Acknowledged, it appears that the intent is to replicate a WWII convoy,
not to conduct a military vehicle event. That is fine.
>
> I am trying to bridge the gap
> > between Reenactors and MV collectors in some
> > reasonable manner. If you are also offended by the
> > WWII clothing requirement (and my standards I listed
> > are much looser than any respectable WWII
> > reenactment), then you just don't get what I am trying
> > to do here.
>
> If I were so inclined, I could step to the closet and return in Korean War
era attire, or any number of Vietnam era uniforms. I was gathering this
stuff when it was virtually mandated in this area that if you didn't dress
like a soldier you weren't entitled to show your vehicle. EVER, with the
local MVPA chapter. This absurd notion has fortunately died.
>
>
> > If for some reason this whole concept infuriates you,
> > well then this event is not for you and ignore the
> > email. I am putting a lot of work into trying
> > something new..and of course those who try new things
> > always are criticized. Go put something else together
> > if you are so inflamed.
>
> I have organized, put together, torn down and participated in a number of
shows, convoys and displays. I know how tough it is, and I have not
attacked you or what you are doing in any way.
>
> Just pointed out how carefull one must be....
>
> Regards,
> DAvid Doyle
>
>
>
>
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