RE: [MV] Military Only Zone-Response

From: Henry J. Fackovec (hfackovec@easternems.com)
Date: Tue Oct 08 2002 - 08:11:20 PDT


Hi Tim:

You are right, I should not giggle your slurpee machine just for laughs.
Enjoy your convoy, and be well: There is more than enough room in this
world for all aspects of the hobby.

Hankie
Reenactor 1975-1985, then became alergic to wool <G>

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Scherrer [mailto:soldierboy440@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 10:36 AM
To: hfackovec@easternems.com
Cc: john cullifer; Allan Ensor; Heath Hensley; Andrew Lawrence; Allen
Linquist; Matt; Charlie Palek; Randall Palmer
Subject: RE: [MV] Military Only Zone-Response

First off, we dress in period clothing, not current US
army clothing, so there is no legal issue of
impersonating anything. As for taking up acting....I
already have---reenacting. That is my hobby since
1983.

I think M series vehicles are just as historic and
collectable as WWII vehicles but they don't belong at
a WWII only event. Your arguements and problem with
this event is sorta like me taking my GPW to a Civil
War event and wondering my people think it isn't
correct.

I am not sure what your problem is, but I really doubt
it involves me and my WWII only event..other than
being a target of your anger. If you don't like my
event..then stay home but also remember others may
appreciate it for what it is. I don't comment or go
to your events just to rock the slurpee machine...so I
ask you not do it with mine.

Tim

--- "Henry J. Fackovec" <hfackovec@easternems.com>
wrote:
> Hmmmmmm....
>
> A person who likes to dress up in military clothing
> that was (AND THIS
> IS AN ASSUMPTION) not authorized, (earned or however
> the law would put
> it) to wear. If I recall this is not allowed under
> the MVPA rules, nor
> under the Federal Code. (One of the reasons that the
> NH club refuses to
> join with the national, is we have certain
> individuals that insist that
> playing dress up is a god given right.).
>
> If you like this sort of thing, perhaps you should
> consider taking up
> acting.
>
> Additionally, while you will argue that this living
> history stuff is "
> Keeping their memories alive" I would counter that
> many veterans (My
> father included), do not really need to be reminded
> of a period of the
> worlds history that was rife with mans inhumanity to
> man. Disruption of
> millions of lives, families loosing sons, daughters,
> etc...In my fathers
> words, " We fought and many died, so you would not
> have to wear that
> uniform...")
>
> I stand by my position that WWII vehicles are not
> nearly as historic as
> M series and should be collected, melted and made
> into wheel chocks for
> real vehicles. (Assuming the quality of the steel is
> high enough. <G>
>
> Hankie, ducking and hiding behind Ronzo this time.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On
> Behalf Of Tim Scherrer
> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2002 12:12 AM
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: [MV] Military Only Zone-Response
>
>
> Well, I was the guy who sent out the email saying
> the
> event had to WWII vehicles and the people dressed in
> WWII clothing, so the target is here if you want to
> take a swing at me.
>
> The thing of it is, the existing WWII vehicle convoy
> done in the midwest did not directly invite nor
> involve MVPA folks because it was intended as a
> reenactment rather than a pure MV event..and they
> didn't want to deal with non-WWII vehicles "farbing
> up" the event, or deal with MVers showing up in
> their
> jungle fatigues and Grizzly Adams beards trying to
> pass for WWII. They just avoided the issue by
> excluding everyone but a select few reenactors.
>
> My thoughts were...why not try and get more MVPA participation by
> opening it up and giving them opportunities to bring WWII vehicles.
> You scratch our
> back and we scratch yours. A win-win for everyone
> who
> can play..right?
>
> Well, I'm sorry if you are somehow offended that
> your
> M35 Duece or M151 can't play, but it doesn't fit the
> intent of the event. I am trying to bridge the gap
> between Reenactors and MV collectors in some
> reasonable manner. If you are also offended by the
> WWII clothing requirement (and my standards I listed
> are much looser than any respectable WWII
> reenactment), then you just don't get what I am
> trying
> to do here.
>
> This is likely why these types of events haven't
> occurred. I am not out to make this the 1,000
> vehicle
> march. I am just trying to connect up reenactors
> and
> MVers together to have some fun and do some
> interesting stuff. If you want to play but don't
> have
> a WWII vehicle, talk to a friend who does and get
> your impression
> together.
>
> If for some reason this whole concept infuriates
> you,
> well then this event is not for you and ignore the
> email. I am putting a lot of work into trying
> something new..and of course those who try new
> things
> always are criticized. Go put something else
> together
> if you are so inflamed.
>
> Tim Scherrer
> Co, 84th ID, Reenacted
> WWIIHRS, MVPA
> Coordinator of Columbia, MO Convoy
>
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