Re: [MV] Halftrack Weight

From: Bobby Joe Pendleton II (bobbyjoe@chartertn.net)
Date: Wed Jan 08 2003 - 20:34:43 PST


I would guess the 454 in George's dually is more than up to the task
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From: "GOTAM35" <gotam35@sc.rr.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] Halftrack Weight

>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Baker, George R. - Eastman" <grbaker@eastman.com>
>
>
> > I guess what I'm asking is can I pull it with a Chevy 3500 Dually?
> >
> >
> > WEIGHT: Net @ 15,100 lbs......Payload @ 4,500 lbs......Gross @ 19,600
lbs.
> > Taken from TM9-2800 October 1947. Jim Wiehe , VA3JHW
j.wiehe@sympatico.ca
>
> I have been pulling a small track-hoe on a tandem axle trailer with a
couple
> of trucks for the past few weeks, so let me give you some advise.
>
> Chevy 3500? No.
>
> Ford 350? Yes.
>
> Ok that's all the jokes, here's the real deal.
>
> You need 4 tires. I don't think anybody makes a tandem trailer with
single
> tires that will do the job. I have a 9 ton trailer with two dual tire
axles
> and it's huge and heavy. The trailer I have been using the last few weeks
> is a 5 ton with two single tire axles. The 8700 pound track-hoe has it at
> it's limit.
>
> You have to have trailer brakes. It's the law. With working trailer
brakes
> you can stop a huge load with a small truck. You have to keep them
adjusted
> properly for the load on the trailer.
>
> You have to have the proper tongue weight. Too little and the truck with
> sway dangerously at high speed. I have experimented with the placement of
> the load on my trailer and if the load is just right the truck drives like
> it is empty. If I have the load too far to the rear of the trailer I
can't
> hold it in the road. On a load that heavy behind a one ton truck you need
a
> goose neck trailer. You can put a great deal of weight over the axle
which
> is where you want it. You can put too much on the tongue too.
>
> Pulling anything is a balancing act. If you get it right it's safe. If
you
> get it wrong it could get you killed.
>
> For what it is worth, here in SC, I went to a DOT auction a few weeks ago
> where they where selling a bunch of 10 ton tilt trailers. Most where ruff
> looking, but would work well for the occasional MV move. They sold for
> between $1000 and $2000. That's about as cheap as a 10 ton trailer gets.
>
> As for the original question, in my humble opinion you should be able to
> pull a load that heavy with a (dare I say it) CHEVY 3500 dually. Make
sure
> you have a good brake box and working trailer brakes. I have repaired
many
> magnets on trailers over the years. After moving so much the wire brakes.
> Make sure the brakes work before you need them. Also at very least check
> with the truck manufacturer and see what the truck is rated for. Your
Chevy
> dealer should be able to tell you if it is considered safe by the factory
> and what they recommend for load displacement. If you have an accident
and
> you are following the manufactures recommendations, you can get their
> lawyers involve too.
>
> It's ashamed you can't get a "power stroke" in your truck.
>
> Joe Trapp
>
>
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