From: David Cole (DavidCole@tk7.net)
Date: Sun Nov 09 2003 - 13:04:10 PST
Does anyone know the TM that would have info on the A Frame crane setup
that I have heard about for the 5 ton M54 series? Or does anyone have
picts of this rig in action?
Has anyone on the list used this setup before? I'd like to put one
together.
Dave
On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 22:34:43 -0500, David Cole <DavidCole@tk7.net> wrote:
>
>
> How do we know that these pictures were classified? Or is this opinion
> that they "should" have been classified.
>
> Dave
>
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>
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 00:55:36 -0600, Doc Bryant <rbhonk1@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> What hit the Abrams has not been verified and came as a surprise to our
>> forces. I'm therefore puzzled why you are so sure you know what it was.
>> Plus, that doesn't change anything... the pics were classified and they
>> were leaked. Classified is classified even if it doesn't make sense to
>> the individual for such a designation.
>>
>> < I saw where the report is sensitive. Not classified. I also did not
>> notice any great uproar anywhere else over these pictures being bandied
>> about.
>>
>> The Abrahms has been sold to foreign countries. One can easily assume
>> other
>> nations intelligence outfits have looked at the tank very carefully.
>> And
>> that is an assumption that I could take to any bank and cash.
>>
>> In testing weapons, if you have a good idea the composition of the armor
>> you
>> are trying to breech, its a standard practice to be able to establish a
>> test
>> material and then extrapolate that data to give you an idea how it would
>> perform if that weapon hit the real McCoy. Obviously, you can not plan
>> in
>> that test for Clausewitz's fog of war, but you can understand what the
>> projectile will do to a roughly equivelent armor shield. Then, if you
>> are
>> worried about any fudge factors, just dial up the performance a notch or
>> two. Overkill is never a bad idea.
>>
>>
>> The weapon wasn't thought to be effective but the gunner got a lucky
>> hit and found something that wasn't planned on.
>>
>>
>> The Golden BB theory? No. Although its done, and we all know it, one
>> should never field a weapons system based on the hope for lucky shot.
>>
>> Never assume that the enemy knows what they are doing
>> and give them intel they didn't have on a silver platter.
>>
>>
>> True. We should have not then allowed FMS of these tanks to other
>> nations.
>>
>>
>> Doc Bryant
>>
>>
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-- Dave
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