From: Glenn McCalley (glenn@combatcatering.com)
Date: Thu Dec 04 2003 - 10:11:36 PST
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas M McHugh" <tmmchugh@msn.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] [MV]
> Glenn,
>
> The fact that you did not show the (Information ?) clerk, how wrong she
is,
> will just cause the next MV Collector to have the same problem.
>
> It is OUR RESPONSIBILITY to teach the idiots that are earning pay for
> incompetence, to have them do the job correctly.
>
> Tom McHugh, NJ
> 1952 M38A1
> M-416 Trailer
> MVPA, MTA
Hmmm...
While I sympathize, I could make the "mission impossible" defense -- but
I'll just say that experiences in my short life have indicated to me that
there's usually no percentage in trying to educate idiots. They are the way
they are and I am not likely to change that no matter how great the effort
expended.
Personally I see a higher return in educating the MV enthusiast. There's
fewer of us (I hope :-) ) than there are idiots out there, and we -want-
to know what's true. Arming ourselves with the correct knowledge to deal
with the bureaucrats will, I believe, go farther than attempting to change
the bureaucrats.
I think Fred Schlesinger's new forum idea is great. Let's compile the known
body of knowledge on titling, tagging and use of MV's so the next time we go
to the friendly DMV, MVA or what-have-you we don't have to ask many
questions because we already know and we've got chapter and verse to show
them if necessary.
Glenn.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Glenn McCalley" <glenn@combatcatering.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] [MV]
>
>
> > > All these surge brake posts have me wondering how
> > > the average DOT or State Patrol dude thinks of
> >
> > ... and I think "the average DOT or State Police dude" has very little
> > idea -- and that's a huge part of the problem. They just have no clue.
> In
> > the short time I've had my MV... oh well. Useless rant. Anyway...
> >
> > Thanks, not flames, to Bill for looking up MD law. It just seems MD
> > officials don't know MD law and I suspect we are not the only state with
> > that problem. Case in point: I got so many wildly different stories as
to
> > whether I could commercially tag a deuce for business use that I decided
> to
> > tag it historic so I could at least drive it around while I figured out
> what
> > is truly what.
> >
> > When I went to motor vehicles for historic tags the "information" desk
> > person I spoke with said can't do that - can't get historic tags for
> > anything over 1 ton. I pointed out that the antique fire engine guys do
> it
> > somehow, and she sniffed and invited me to waste my time if I wanted
with
> > the Title Dept. supervisor but there was no way I would get historic
tags
> > for an 18,000# truck. The title dept. supervisor said no problem, you
can
> > put historic tags on anything that moves and some things that can't
move.
> > Got the tags, paid my money, and left. Resisted showing the tags to the
> > "information" desk lady on my way out. No point.
> >
> > Education is the answer (assuming the people involved are educable I
> > suppose).
> >
> > Wouldn't it be wonderful to have a reference source for "THIS is how you
> get
> > it done in <picka> state for your MV". MVPA have anything like that
> anyone
> > know?
> >
> > Glenn.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ryan Gill" <rmgill@mindspring.com>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MV] [MV]
> >
> >
> > > All these surge brake posts have me wondering how
> > > the average DOT or State Patrol dude thinks of
> > > the Air over Hydraulic brakes on the 2.5 ton and
> > > 5 Ton trucks. Or the trailers that are commonly
> > > used with them. How does this normally pan out at
> > > a weight station if they want you to come in?
> > > --
> > > --
> > > Ryan Gill rmgill@SPAMmindspring.com
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