Re: [MV] deuce lug nuts

From: Bruce Beattie (bruce@eecs.berkeley.edu)
Date: Thu Dec 11 2003 - 11:04:36 PST


I would think that if you have a clean lubricated nut and lug, that when you
torqued
it down, it would allow the nut to go down further on the threads, and thereby
set up more interference preasure between the nut and the rim, which is where
the holding force is predominant.
Just my guess though.
Bruce MVPA 23824

m35products wrote:

> Jeeeze. I'm sorry to have started this argument. My feeling is that I don't
> have enough technical knowlege to figure all this out. For instance, in an
> ideal laboratory setting, if you use a torque wrench on a rusty nut, and get
> 100 foot pounds, and you use the same torque wrench on a lubricated nut, and
> tighten it to 100 foot pounds, are you saying that the lubricated one is
> "looser" than the rusty one? How can there be difference in that situation,
> compared to, say, a rusted nut versus a brand-new, shiny, non-lubricated
> nut? Wouldn't the new nut be more prone to come loose, following this line
> of reasoning?
>
> apbloom
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "jonathon" <jemery@execpc.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] deuce lug nuts
>
> >
> > >My conclusion about antiseize- if used in bus service, almost continuous
> > >usage with frequent starts and stops, my main concern would be lugs
> > >loosening and I would not use antiseize. But with only occasional short
> trip
> > >usage, rusting is a much bigger concern. I think a typical "drive it a
> few
> > >times a month" MV would do just fine with antiseize. I'd still check the
> > >lugs for tightness every few months, and before any longer trips.
> >
> > I and a number of friends use anti-seize on all lug nuts all the time for
> > many many years in all kinds of weather and service from little cars to
> > medium sized dump trucks and have never, ever had any problem or even hint
> > of problem. Seems to me it's the friction from the taper that does more to
> > keep the nut on than anything to do with the threads.
> >
> > But then..... your mileage may vary.
> >
> > later,
> >
> > je
> >
> >
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