From: Glen Closson (glen@closson.com)
Date: Mon Mar 15 2004 - 20:21:57 PST
A co-worker was selling his boat, however the buyer was a 5 hour drive away.
They came up with an interesting method to fully describe the boat. The
co-worker took a video of the boat in his driveway, he went over everything
he could think of, plus what the buyer wanted to see. Then he started the
engine and video taped that with sound and sent the tape to the buyer. The
buyer liked what he saw, they reached a price and the buyer was not
surprised when he took possition.
Something to consider.
Regards,
Glen
May the Joys of today be those of tomorrow!
May the goblet of life hold no dregs of sorrow!
-----Original Message-----
From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On Behalf
Of Glenn Shaw
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 7:48 PM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] Caveat Emptor
Hi List
I guess I would like to weigh in on this discussion. So far this matter has
been conducted in good taste by adults and is a credit to this list that
such discussions can be carried on rationally. It is entirely on topic and
should be addressed on the list since Mr. Combat brought it up here.
I must state that I have been in the MV business for 35 years now and
have had dealings with Mr. Richard Thiers. I have bought 2 M1009 CUCV
Blazers from him as a matter of fact. He has always been completely honest
and forthcoming in his dealings. I have NEVER found him to be sleazy, or
dishonest in any way. I have felt that way with plenty of dealers but not
Rick. His trucks were always good trucks, used but as described.
Why someone would buy a truck without even laying eyes on it is beyond
me. But that is "Combat's" right. Had the buyer simply taken the time
to look at what he was going to lay the cash down on, all of this would not
have happened. But we all know that. Even the buyer acknoweldges this fact
below. The problem comes when he attaches the "Caveat Emptor"
labeling to Mr. Thiers specifically. It should not be put on him anymore
than any and every buyer should beware to check out the truck himself. Then
there will not be any misunderstanding about what the product is or isnt.
We all know that old military vehicles with rare exceptions are not going
to be perfect, but rather have some problems to be sure. Just look the
truck over and if the deal is made then you are getting what you are happy
with for the price you are happy with or don't buy it. But don't blame a
guy who is a stand up dealer who sells you something as invloved as a used
truck sight unseen from hundreds of miles away that doesn't meet the picture
in your imagination as to what it is going to be.
We need to be fair to each other in this hobby. That includes being fair to
a dealer who has not done a thing wrong, by not slamming him and his
business here on a list that stretches across the country and the world.
Lastly I feel that if someone wants to make statements or inuendos on the
list regarding the character or another list member, by name, they should
begin by using their name so we know who they are and
not hide behind some fictional handle. We would like to know who we
are speaking with here. Its not fair to speak cloaked in an alias when you
are getting down on people.
Glenn Shaw
MVPA
MTANJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On Behalf
Of Combat
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2004 9:12 PM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: [MV] Caveat Emptor
If you read Mr Thiers response to my simple offering of a buyer beware you
will notice an air of caution and considerable "explanation" of what he did
and I failed to do. Things like a valetrain knock, inop speedo, multiple
dented roof, multiple dented tailgate, ripped seats, and the list goes on
were not offered as problems that anyone could see but only the the things I
asked about specifically. The photos sent were lets say ...."tactical".
I am in the automotive business for 25 years now and have a lifetime of
references. But I DID say to him that the truck is otherwise nice and only
have myself to blame for not going to see it in person.... thus the Caveat
Emptor.
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