From: Sonny Heath (sonny@defuniak.com)
Date: Mon Sep 13 2004 - 18:46:28 PDT
I, for one, can't agree with you. You obviously don't understand how
involved we Americans get with our Commander in Chief. Thats one reason why
we are the strongest nation in the world.
Thanks anyway!
Sonny
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Cooney <triumphtrash13@eircom.net>
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] ** OFF TOPIC ** RE: [MV] OT: Don't confuse me withthe
facts !!
> Seems to me everyone is wrong if one was to believe all the OFF TOPIC
> postings about the US Presidential candidates but save it for another list
> PLEASE!
> Please remember this is a Military Vehicle Mailing List; some of you seem
to
> have forgotten!
> Why should folks have to hit the Delete Key cos people who know the list
> rules continue to flaunt them? This stuff shouldn't be posted end of
story!
> This is overall a good humoured, very helpful list with some great info
(and
> wisecracks) on it. Let's all try and keep it that way.
>
> Jim....in Ireland.
> M1008 A1 CUCV.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pasquale Lombardi" <pasquale.nj@verizon.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 2:40 AM
> Subject: [MV] ** OFF TOPIC ** RE: [MV] OT: Don't confuse me with the facts
> !!
>
>
> >
> >
> > Hello Mr. Forster:
> > In answer to your question reproduced below,
> > I would like your thoughts on the following quotes.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > On Behalf Of J. Forster
> >
> > Subject: Re: [MV] OT: Don't confuse me with the facts !!
> >
> > I guess your mind's made up and you don't want to be confused with the
> > facts.
> > Hmmmm... just like Bush going into Iraq.
> >
> > Where's the A-bombs? Where's the poison gas ? Where's the war germs ?
> > WHERE'S
> > THE BEEF ??
> >
> > -John
> >
> >
> > Where Bush Got His Marching Orders
> >
> >
> > "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the
> capacity
> > to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
> > That is our bottom line."
> > - President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
> >
> > "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose
> is
> > clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons
> of
> > mass destruction program."
> > - President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
> >
> > "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there
matters
> a
> > great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will
use
> > nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the
> > greatest security threat we face."
> > - Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
> >
> > "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he
has
> > ten times since 1983."
> > - Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18,
1998
> >
> > "We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent
> with
> > the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if
> > appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond
> > effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of
> mass
> > destruction programs."
> > - Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin
> (D-MI),
> > Tom Daschle (D-SD), John Kerry ( D - MA), and others Oct. 9, 1998
> >
> > "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons
> of
> > mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region
> and
> > he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
> > - Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
> >
> > "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons
> of
> > mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
> > - Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
> >
> > "There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has invigorated his
> > weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear
> > programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In
> addition,
> > Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the
> > cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that
> will
> > threaten the United States and our allies."
> > - Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,)
> and
> > others, December 5, 2001
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant
> and
> > threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
> mandate
> > of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and
the
> > means of delivering them."
> > - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
> >
> > "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and
> > chemical weapons throughout his country."
> > - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
> >
> > "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven
> > impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as
long
> > as Saddam is in power."
> > - Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
> >
> > "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking
and
> > developing weapons of mass destruction."
> > - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
> >
> > "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998.
We
> > are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical
and
> > biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to
> > build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence
> > reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
> > - Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
> >
> >
> > "I will be voting to give the President of the United States
the
> > authority to use force-- if necessary-- to disarm Saddam Hussein because
I
> > believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his
hands
> is
> > a real and grave threat to our security."
> > - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
> >
> > "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
> > aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear
> weapons
> > within the next five years . We also should remember we have always
> > underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of
> > mass destruction."
> > - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
> >
> > "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past
11
> > years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm
> and
> > destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity.
> This
> > he has refused to do."
> > - Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002
> >
> > "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence
> reports
> > show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and
biological
> > weapon stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program.
He
> > has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al
> Qaeda
> > members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked Saddam Hussein
will
> > continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical
warfare,
> > and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
> >
> > - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
> >
> >
> > "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling
evidence
> > that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing
> > capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
> > - Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
> >
> > "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a
> > brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents
a
> > particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
> > miscalculation .. And now he is miscalculating America's response to his
> > continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
> destruction...
> > So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is
real."
> > - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
> >
> >
> >
> > SO NOW THESE SAME DEMOCRATS SAY PRESIDENT BUSH LIED, THAT THERE
> > NEVER WERE ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, AND THAT HE TOOK US TO WAR
> > UNNECESSARILY !
> >
> > TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT THE PRESIDENT LEADING US TO WAR.
> >
> >
> >
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