Re: [MV] M35 Turbo upgrade: Thermocouple and Pressure Gauge

From: Patrick Jankowiak (recycler@swbell.net)
Date: Sun Oct 03 2004 - 17:01:58 PDT


With all this advice, I am thinking about going ahead with doing
a 'before' TC and also an 'after' one.

Question-- just how hard is it to remove the turbo mounting bolts
on the exh. manifold?

anyone's tales of this would be welcome!

intake looks easy - no heat no rust.

Patrick

Dick wrote:

> Jim, I think you have it backwards. The exhaust gases cool about 300
> degrees as they give up energy (heat) to the turbine side of the
> turbocharger.
> Therefore, 1200 at the turbine inlet would be about 900 after the turbine.
> Also, the temp after the turbine will vary quite a bit, depending on
> throttle position, ambient air pressure/temp, humidity, etc.
> IMHO, it's still best to install the sensor in the exhaust manifold as
> close as possible to the turbine inlet.
>
> Dick
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Shanks" <n1vbn@arrl.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: 03 October, 2004 10:47
> Subject: Re: [MV] M35 Turbo upgrade: Thermocouple and Pressure Gauge
>
>
>> The thermocouple for the Pyrometer must be installed in one of
>> two places only. Either just before all the exhaust gases enter the
>> turbo or just after the gases exit the turbo. Any other location will
>> give you incorrect readings that are useless to you. The Plug you
>> referred to is on the exhaust manifold for ONE cylinder only and is a
>> clean out plug to be used for that purpose only.When I go to work
>> tomorrow I will take some pictures of what a proper after the turbo
>> installation looks like and send them to interested parties.
>>
>> Limits for Pyrometer on the Multifuel engine are 900 Degrees F
>> mounted before the turbo and 1200 degrees F mounted after the turbo.
>> Operate beyond these limits and you can quickly melt pistons, liners,
>> valves. If you operate beyond the limits the damage won't generally
>> happen instantly but it turn a good running engine into one you wish
>> you didn't have. I have seen it on more than one occasion.
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> At 08:00 PM 10/2/2004, Patrick Jankowiak wrote:
>>
>>> How about putting the thermocouple here in place of this pipe plug?
>>>
>>> Anyone ever 'successfully' removed this plug or know anything about it?
>>>
>>> http://208.190.133.201/m35misc/miscpics.html
>>>
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>>
>> James Shanks
>> n1vbn@arrl.net
>> 1985 M1009
>> 1998 IMZ 8.103
>> 1984 H-D FLHT-C
>>
>>
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