Re: [MV] M35 Turbo upgrade: Thermocouple and Pressure Gauge

From: Cliff S (mtnbikinssgt@hotmail.com)
Date: Sun Oct 03 2004 - 18:15:04 PDT


Gentlemen, Gentlemen, 10 paces and face about, and come out shooting!  Geesh!!!

All this talk about thermocouplers, pyro gauges.....bla bla bla..........how many stock Deuce and a Halfs have them????  and how many have blown engines???? 

Now how many "upgraded" engines with pyros have you seen with blown up blocks, probably a lot more in this catagory right?

Sounds like DRIVER ERROR!!!!!  Not the engine.

Enough................start it up, drive it, let er cool for a few and turn it off.  Class dismissed!  (along with this tyrade please.......)




Cliff Smith SSgt USMC Iraq
From: Patrick Jankowiak <recycler@swbell.net> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org> Subject: Re: [MV] M35 Turbo upgrade: Thermocouple and Pressure Gauge Date: Sun, 03 Oct 2004 19:01:58 -0500 With all this advice, I am thinking about going ahead with doing a 'before' TC and also an 'after' one. Question-- just how hard is it to remove the turbo mounting bolts on the exh. manifold? anyone's tales of this would be welcome! intake looks easy - no heat no rust. Patrick Dick wrote: >Jim, I think you have it backwards. The exhaust gases cool about >300 degrees as they give up energy (heat) to the turbine side of the >turbocharger. >Therefore, 1200 at the turbine inlet would be about 900 after the >turbine. >Also, the temp after the turbine will vary quite a bit, depending on >throttle position, ambient air pressure/temp, humidity, etc. >IMHO, it's still best to install the sensor in the exhaust manifold >as close as possible to the turbine inlet. > >Dick >----- Original Message ----- From: "James Shanks" <n1vbn@arrl.net> >To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org> >Sent: 03 October, 2004 10:47 >Subject: Re: [MV] M35 Turbo upgrade: Thermocouple and Pressure Gauge > > >> The thermocouple for the Pyrometer must be installed in >>one of two places only. Either just before all the exhaust gases >>enter the turbo or just after the gases exit the turbo. Any other >>location will give you incorrect readings that are useless to you. >>The Plug you referred to is on the exhaust manifold for ONE >>cylinder only and is a clean out plug to be used for that purpose >>only.When I go to work tomorrow I will take some pictures of what a >>proper after the turbo installation looks like and send them to >>interested parties. >> >> Limits for Pyrometer on the Multifuel engine are 900 >>Degrees F mounted before the turbo and 1200 degrees F mounted after >>the turbo. Operate beyond these limits and you can quickly melt >>pistons, liners, valves. If you operate beyond the limits the >>damage won't generally happen instantly but it turn a good running >>engine into one you wish you didn't have. I have seen it on more >>than one occasion. >> >> >>Jim >> >> >> >>At 08:00 PM 10/2/2004, Patrick Jankowiak wrote: >> >>>How about putting the thermocouple here in place of this pipe >>>plug? >>> >>>Anyone ever 'successfully' removed this plug or know anything >>>about it? >>> >>>http://208.190.133.201/m35misc/miscpics.html >>> >>>===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== >>>To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org> >>>To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to >>><mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org> >>>To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org> >> >> >>James Shanks >>n1vbn@arrl.net >>1985 M1009 >>1998 IMZ 8.103 >>1984 H-D FLHT-C >> >> >> >>===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== >>To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org> >>To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to >><mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org> >>To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org> >> > > > >===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== >To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org> >To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to ><mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org> >To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org> > ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org> To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to <mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org> To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>


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