From: Steve Grammont (islander@midmaine.com)
Date: Sat Nov 20 2004 - 08:24:21 PST
I should have read Alan's post before responding to Jeff :-) My limited
understanding is that Alan is correct. A buddy and I not bidding on the
same item at the same time is no different than two guys being in a large
public auction, sitting next to each other, and not raising a hand if the
buddy does. It is common practice and it is more designed to not have
friends going at each other's throats than it is to control the price of
the bidding (which is impossible on eBay).
Steve
>What you are discussing is apples and oranges. Collusive bidding in regards
>to a federal DRMO auction is not the same- or even close- to eBay. The eBay
>activity is still open to millions of other bidders, as well as being a
>private company. It is certainly NOT illegal by any stretch. No matter what
>a small group of folks do, a million people are still able to bid on any
>item at any time.
>
>
>
>
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>on 11/20/04 10:20 AM, JEFF HAIN-MATSON at flmv@flmv.net wrote:
>
>> correct, what you are doing is illegal!! it is collusive bidding, and i
>bet if
>> these other people are in different states, the FBI would be involved.
>not a
>> pretty picture.
>>
>> Steve Grammont wrote:
>>
>>> Wow... I have "cease fire" arrangements with probably a dozen fellow
>>> eBayers so we don't wind up killing each other over items of mutual
>>> interest. Instead we email each other and see if other arrangements can
>>> be made. Guess I should be looking over my shoulder for some DA looking
>>> to make a name for himself :-)
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>> for everybody's information:
>>>> The below link should also include the same cases against the top 20
>people
>>>> buying surplus at the time on the east coast. A new U.S. attorney out of
>>>> Philadelphia was trying to make a name for himself, convinced that
>there had
>>>> to be collusive bidding since the acquisition cost vs. the sale price of
>>>> tractor trailer sized lots was so big. Several dealers pled guilty
>(Sarafan
>>>> was not one as far as i know). the charges were dropped eventually
against
>>>> the rest, and the new U.S. attorney was fired for wasting lots of
taxpayer
>>>> money on what was found to be a non issue!!
>>>>
>>>> m35products wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.usdoj.gov/atr/cases/sarafa0.htm
>>>>>
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