RE: [MV] Diesel engine woes, M1009 timing chain?

From: Stu Ellis (stuinnh@mvnut.us)
Date: Tue Nov 23 2004 - 10:16:00 PST


These trucks can do that to you.

              "Stu"
Southern New Hampshire, USA
      "Live Free Or Die"
 
MVPA #14790
1967 M151A1 Jeep
1964 M416 Trailer
1986 M1009 Blazer

-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce C. Beattie [mailto:bruce@eecs.berkeley.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:41 PM
To: Stu Ellis; Military Vehicles Mailing List; MV
Subject: Re: [MV] Diesel engine woes, M1009 timing chain?
Importance: High

Thanks Stu,
    I hope you are right. It is probably my imagination, but it seems
like it is louder now.
Bruce

Stu Ellis wrote:

>I think they all sound like that. So does mine. It only had 38,000 miles
>when I got it. It now has 48,000.
>
> "Stu"
>Southern New Hampshire, USA
> "Live Free Or Die"
>
>MVPA #14790
>1967 M151A1 Jeep
>1964 M416 Trailer
>1986 M1009 Blazer
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On Behalf
>Of Bruce C. Beattie
>Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:17 PM
>To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
>Subject: Re: [MV] Diesel engine woes, M1009 timing chain?
>Importance: High
>
>Hi Caleb,
> I have an M1008 and I have been hearing this noise at idle that
> sounds like something
>clanking around, almost like a bad bearing. I don't think it is any of
>the belt driven stuff,
>so I am beginning to suspect the timing chain too. Supposedly the truck
>only had 15k on it when
>I got it, and it shows about 34k now. By in large it runs pretty good,
>but this noise is driving me crazy.
>Bruce MVPA 23824
>
>Caleb Pal - MilVeh wrote:
>
>
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>Haven't posted here in a while. I have a couple projects going on right
>>
>>
>now.
>
>
>>Il'l start with the M1009. 84 M1009, 75,000 miles, runs great, no smoke,
>>sometimes a tad hard to start, usually just me not manually glowing it
long
>>enough. What I have heard ever since I have gotten the truck just about a
>>year ago, is a noise coming from the front of the engine when idling. I
>>
>>
>will
>
>
>>be about 5 feet in front of the truck, and even further away, I can hear a
>>noise, its like ball bearings rolling around in a pot. like a clicking
>>noise, like the fan is hitting something, but its not. I pop the hood and
>>listen, but the engine noise is too much to hear it. I started up the fire
>>departments M1008 with 72k miles on it (I think) and it doesn't have the
>>noise. Is it possible it could be the timing chain on the M1009 making
this
>>noise? I know average replacement is about 100k miles, but I don't know if
>>the chain had a bit of slap, if it could make such a noise. I had the oil
>>pan off a month ago, and I could feel the tension on the chain. I can't
>>remeber now, but one side had quite a bit of slack on it, and the other
>>
>>
>side
>
>
>>was tensioned, but not totally tight from what I could tell from the
>>
>>
>bottom.
>
>
>>I didn't think to do a full inspection on it then, which wasn't too
bright.
>>So any ideas about that sound and what could cause it. I know its not that
>>alternators, doubt the PS pump, but not toally sure.
>>
>>Second is the vegetable oil conversion. The 4cylinder diesel engine is off
>>of a Carrier Transicold cooling unit. The engine was made in 1980, in the
>>UK. Its a inline 4 perkins 4.108, or 4108. The problem with it is that it
>>has sat for about 8-10 years. Last date on the oil filters and fuel
filters
>>were 91. I got it running, and it ran like hell, rough at WOT. I took the
>>injectors out and cleaned them, basically just cleaned stuff off the tips.
>>It runs ok now, smokes a bit at idle, and puffs a good amount of smoke,
>>like when an injector is misfiring or something, about every 3-8 seconds.
>>
>>
>At
>
>
>>WOT it smokes quite a bit more, and misses and puffs a bit of smoke, about
>>every 2-5 seconds. I pulled all the injectors out, hooked an injector to
>>
>>
>one
>
>
>>of the lines, and turned the engine over with the starter. It shoots fuel
>>about 4-8 inches, as a pretty straight and even stream, and about 12-14
>>inches out it starts to atomize and go into a mist. I know it doesnt have
a
>>foot of space to atomize in the engine, so is the pop off pressure too low
>>and its not turing into a mist soon enough, and dumping too much fuel in,
>>hence the smoke? I tried all of the injectors, let them shoot for 2-3
>>
>>
>times,
>
>
>>and they all preformed the same. Its kind of a low budget project, and I
>>don't feel like dropping $40-$70 each into new injectors. I know if I take
>>the return line rail off the toppof the all, there is a allen head in
>>
>>
>there,
>
>
>>is this the pop off pressure adjustment? The injectors are flat on the
end,
>>with a little tiny tip sticking out in the middle. Any ideas for this is
>>greatly appriciated, I will try and grab some pictures if anyone is
>>interested.
>>
>>Last, is my pictures project. I have pictures of my M1009, and soon to
have
>>pictures of my M211 (soon to be FS) and the fire departments M35A2 and
>>M1008, and M107A2? (I think, water buffalo). If interested, visit the site
>>at http://pictures.defcon-3.net
>>
>>Thanks in advance!
>>
>>Caleb
>>
>>84 M1009
>>52 XM211
>>
>>
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