Re: [MV] Improvised armor for MV in Iraq

From: Cliff S (mtnbikinssgt@hotmail.com)
Date: Thu Dec 09 2004 - 14:16:39 PST


Fred, yes yes and  more yes's to answer you questions.  Enough is being done, but they keep recruiting suicide mentality bombers (and droppers) so they do not care if they get caught.

And you have it right on the button about the armor.  something can only stop what it was intended to stop.  If they make it bigger (IED), you lose.  And that is the case.  4 or more 155mm arty rounds in one hole is not uncommon.  Imagine the power that has.............now try to use anything to roll over it.  You just lost a tank!  There is nothing left of the hummer that was there too.

Do you all get physics?  It is unbelievable that when a bomb goes off there is NOTHING left of a vehicle!!!  Go outside and look at what you drive...............I'll wait.....................now imagine you hit something and look to the empty parking spot next to your Tahoe...........Thats right.... Thats whats left.......Armor or not!!!!!!




Cliff Smith SSgt USMC Iraq
From: Fred Martin <mung@in-touch.net> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org> Subject: Re: [MV] Improvised armor for MV in Iraq Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 09:08:10 -0500 Are they making use of those little remote controlled aircraft that have a camera in them? Looks like they could fly them up and down the highways at irregular times and catch them in the act of setting up those "widow makers". Don't these planes have IR camera capability? If they're worried about flying them at night and maybe losing one (and the technology of it) ...put a little charge in it and detonate it with a button. Not enough is being done about the IED deaths, in my opinion. Putting armor on the vehicles is exactly how they want us to retaliate...so they can make their bombs bigger and we're back to square one. It seems like our boss is on their side. Fred Martin Glenn Shaw wrote: >Most often by cell phone, sometimes by wire. The Israelis have a >vehicle in >each convoy that has a cell phone hi power jammer that prevents >*most* of >them but not all from working. If it is by wire line then you can >not stop >it. > >Glenn > >-----Original Message----- >From: Bjorn Brandstedt [mailto:super_deuce@hotmail.com] Sent: >Wednesday, December 08, 2004 4:20 PM >To: Military Vehicles Mailing List >Subject: Re: [MV] Improvised armor for MV in Iraq > > >How are IED's triggered? By remote control? Perhaps the signal can >be jammed. >Bjorn > > >===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== >To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org> >To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to ><mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org> >To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org> > > > ===Mil-Veh is a member-supported mailing list=== To unsubscribe, send e-mail to: <mil-veh-off@mil-veh.org> To switch to the DIGEST mode, send e-mail to <mil-veh-digest@mil-veh.org> To reach a human, contact <ack@mil-veh.org>


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