Re: [MV] Improvised armor for MV in Iraq

From: Steve Grammont (islander@midmaine.com)
Date: Thu Dec 09 2004 - 15:16:20 PST


>Steve, your right on track with what you almost say.  Yes they are
>fanatics, they (muslims) have been fighting since the beginning of
>time. 

Mankind has been fighting since the beginning of time. Fanatics are just
the worst type of Mankind. Just remember there are plenty of fanatics
out there that aren't Muslim, and plenty of Muslims that aren't fanatics.
 The world is really a messed up place in case you didn't know :-)

>I agree with you if you could say that.  Countermeasures are
>exactly that, a response to what is happening.  All we have to do it get
>to the bottom of the barrel and then there wont be anymore, but, they
>keep recruiting them so we will just have to keep at it.

Any military policy that relies on killing until there is nobody left to
kill is bound to fail from a practical standpoint (I'm not even going to
touch the moral aspect). Vietnam hammered that point home really strong,
as have a number of other failed attempts to nation build. Killing is a
means to an end, not the end itself.

>To say that the Iraqi had an Army is pathetic.  They had a mob of men in
>the same clothes.

They had an Army. A pathetic Army, but still it was an Army. And they
used tactics too :-)

>I will give you your right to say whatever you want in public.  But I do
>not have to like it.

Nor do you have to. That's what separates a free society from a closed one.

>I think your way off base with your thinking.

That the civilians running the war don't know what they are doing? Let's
chat in 4 years and see if you have changed your mind at all. I just
hope that you're around to have that chat. Keep safe.

Steve



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