Re: [MV] ebay..Mail Fraud

From: Joe Shannon (fordpart@bellsouth.net)
Date: Sat Dec 11 2004 - 05:17:13 PST


This is one of the reasons that they push PayPal. If you pay with a
Postal Money Order it will also be mail fraud if there is a problem with
the trading process.

Thomas M McHugh wrote:

> If the item was actually mailed, you can file a complaint directly to
> the Postal Inspection Service.
>
> Mailing an empty Parcel is Mail Fraud. Notify the Postal Inspection
> Service.
>
> Go to your local PO & ask the Postmaster to call the Inspectors.
> They have access to the Inspectors & should help you file a complaint.
>
> Just say "MAIL FRAUD" often & loudly.
>
>
> Tom McHugh, NJ
> Postmaster Retired
> 1952 M38A1
> M-416 Trailer
> MVPA, MTA
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "m35products" <m35prod@optonline.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 7:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] ebay....more tricks.
>
>
>> Try a report with the Postal Police. They have federal jurisdiction.
>>
>> apb
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sonny Heath" <sonny@defuniak.com>
>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 7:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MV] ebay....more tricks.
>>
>>
>>> When they said "police" I don't think they meant city police as they
>>> probably wouldn't know whether you lived in a city or not. Why
>>> didn't you
>>> call the County Sheriff to do a report?
>>>
>>> You really should get to know who enforces the law around you as you
>>> may
>>> need them one o these days.
>>>
>>> Sonny
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <bill@welovenh.com>
>>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 4:04 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MV] ebay....more tricks.
>>>
>>>
>>> > MV related.
>>> >
>>> > I bought a part for my MV through ebay. Used PayPal to pay the buyer.
>>> > The package showed up empty. I do not know whether the seller
>>> tried to
>>> > screw me or the contents was lost by the PO. Regardless the seller
>>> will
>>> > not do anything and the Post Office says they are not responsible for
>>> > the sellers mispackaging of the product. (No contents were damaged as
>>> > there were no contents)
>>> >
>>> > I then tried to file a claim under PayPal (an Ebay subsidiary) buyer
>>> > protection...using the the catagory that the "package received - no
>>> > contents". After 20 days this was PayPals reply.
>>> >
>>> > (contact info removed to protect the guilty)
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>> ****************************************************************************
>>
>>
>>> *******
>>> >
>>> > Transaction Date: Oct. xx, 2004 Transaction Amount: -$xxx.xx USD Case
>>> > Number: xxxxxxxxxx Seller's Name: ?????????? Seller's Email:
>>> >
>>> > In order to continue this investigation, a police report must be
>>> filed
>>> > with your local police authority and a copy of that report must be
>>> > faxed
>>> > to PayPal within 10 calendar days.
>>> >
>>> > If a police report is not received, the investigation will end and
>>> the
>>> > claim will be closed.
>>> >
>>> > Use the link below for the fax number and the bar-coded fax cover
>>> > sheet.
>>> > You may need to log in before accessing the following page:
>>> >
>>> > <snip>
>>> >
>>> > Thank you for your cooperation.
>>> >
>>> > Sincerely,
>>> > Protection Services Department
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>> ****************************************************************************
>>
>>
>>> *********
>>> >
>>> > Huh????? I called a local Police Officer in town that I know and
>>> > explained the situation. He told me that they would not do a Police
>>> > report as the crime did not occur in town.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > So PayPal/Ebay has now found a new way to get out of covering stuff
>>> > under their "Buyer Protection" plan.
>>> >
>>> > Just figured I pass this along to others so they don't get equally
>>> > screwed buying MV parts.
>>> >
>>> > Any Lawyers out there need Class action work?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > everette wrote:
>>> > > Exactly - Ebay cares nothing about the buyer - until he refuses to
>>
>> pay,
>>
>>> even
>>> > > if seller is fradulent
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Everette
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joe Shannon"
>>> <fordpart@bellsouth.net>
>>> > > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Everyone needs to reread the "safety" rules of Ebay because
>>> they
>>> > > have changed considerably in their own favor since I started
>>> blowing
>>> > > money there.
>>> > >
>>> > > Safe Harbor is just another way for them to take your money.
>>> > >
>>> > > Ebay has told me that in the new rules a "powerseller" does not
>>
>> have
>>
>>> > > to be honest and they will not do anything to correct them,
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
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>>> >
>>> > -- > ..."A good plan executed violently today is better than a
>>> perfect plan
>>> > executed at some indefinite time in the future. General George S.
>>> > Patton, Jr."
>>> >
>>> > Any ship can be a minesweeper . . . . once.
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