From: m35products (m35prod@optonline.net)
Date: Wed Feb 02 2005 - 16:38:58 PST
The cards are not valid, and my machine rejects them. I just tried with an
amount of $10.00 on each. apb
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Grammont" <islander@midmaine.com>
To: "m35products" <m35prod@optonline.net>
Cc: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] The game's afoot, (continued)
> I'd be a little bit careful about the charge card angle. Remember...
> you could be creating a problem for some poor sod whose credit card
> number was swiped.
>
> My advice:
>
> First thing I would do is get the CSC number from this guy. If he
> balks, it is obvious why. If he gives you one then you can move onto
> the next step. What you can do is process the card as a HOLD charge
> (or I think they call it pre-authorization). Meaning, you have only
> asked the credit card company to place x Dollars of the guy's credit
> aside from you, but not send it to your account. If the card is legit,
> and the credit limit has not been reached, this will happen no problem.
> Then you can ask for the charge to be authorized and sent to your
> account when you are more sure that it is legit. If you never ask for
> the authorization the hold will automatically expire and go away, no
> harm no foul. The card user might see the hold charge and challenge
> it, which also covers your butt.
>
> After you have placed the charge, wait at least 3-4 weeks before
> shipping anything. Chargebacks for fraud charges can take some time.
> The fraud we were hit with in late Dec and early January is only now
> being sent to us by various credit card companies. We will have to
> refund this money plus some fees, because the American way is to always
> stick the small business guy with the losses instead of the credit card
> companies which are still dragging their feet on better security
> measures. It's good to be the king, I guess :-)
>
> Steve
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 2, 2005, at 12:21 PM, m35products wrote:
>
> > I intend to accept the CC # and then run it in my machine.
> >
> > I then will ask for a fax number that I can send the ticket to, for his
> > signature.
> >
> > This will let me see exactly where this bozo is located, assuming he
> > falls
> > for the ruse.
> >
> > (If he is indeed in the states, he can be found, eventually. Some of
> > these
> > scumbags operate with an accomplice in the US. The accomplices often
> > actually show up to intimidate the mark. He is more than welcome to
> > come see
> > my various collections. Perhaps he can assist me, down-range, in
> > sighting-in a new rifle I got from Santa Claus.)
> >
> > I then, and only then, will fullfil my business obligation as an honest
> > God-fearing American businessman, and send him a sample of Mrs. Bloom's
> > daily kitchen garbage collection, and a small offering from Miss Dog,
> > securely packaged, and hermetically sealed. I will enclose my photo, in
> > uniform, pointing my Glock Model 19 at the camera, ala "Uncle Sam Wants
> > You". Nothing that I do will stop him, but I may get him to soil
> > himself.
> >
> > Then I will notify a friend at FBI, who will notify Interpol, and they
> > can
> > have him, (or not).
> >
> > AP "Dr. Evil" B
> >
> > bwoohahahahaha!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Stephen Grammont" <islander@midmaine.com>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 12:00 PM
> > Subject: [MV] The game's afoot, (continued)
> >
> >
> >> From: steve@battlefront.com
> >> Subject: Re: [MV] The game's afoot, (continued)
> >> Date: February 2, 2005 11:04:04 AM EST
> >> To: rickv100@yahoo.com
> >> Cc: mil-veh@mil-veh.org
> >>
> >> I agree... likely a stolen credit card number which would only be
> >> discovered AFTER shipment of materials. Probably why our little
> >> friend
> >> in Legos is so curious about WHEN the product will ship.
> >
> >
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