From: Mil-Veh Co. (milveh@sbcglobal.net)
Date: Wed Mar 16 2005 - 07:44:25 PST
I think that is the question the whole world is
waiting to hear...definately.
--- Sonny Heath <sonny@defuniak.com> wrote:
> WHAT WILL CANADA DO IF CHINA INVADES
> TAIWAN?????????????????????????????????
>
> Sonny
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Convoy Magazine" <convoymagazine@yahoo.com>
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> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] Invasion OT
>
>
> > Boy this is one subject that gets me and I must
> agree
> > with the comments made previously by others!
> >
> > 1. China is sucking up the worlds raw materials
> while
> > pretty much (in general terms) conserving theirs.
> > HMMM why? When everyone elses resources are
> eventually
> > become low, China will still have lots of there
> own to
> > fall back on. (strategic concern)
> >
> > (EG.I have seen several photos showing absolute
> clear
> > cutting deforestation of neighbouring countries to
> > feed Chinese demand. The barren hills lead to a
> sharp
> > demarcation where lush forest begins...China. Also
> as
> > mentioned by others in this thread, scrap steel,
> and
> > oil prices are going higher all the time because
> of
> > Chinese demand)
> >
> > 2. Several clothing mills in Canada have recently
> been
> > bankrupted by Chinese production, closed down,
> > thousands of jobs lost. The mighty (Cdn-based)
> Bata
> > shoes, closing all Canadian stores due to same.
> China,
> > having purchased a US battery maker a couple of
> years
> > ago became the world 3rd largest battery supplier
> > (prety important concern methinks). China just
> > obtained an important part of IBM.....
> >
> > Anyway, the two points here are: once the Chinese
> have
> > eliminated competition (and weakened Western
> economies
> > through job loss), what do you think will happen
> to
> > prices? and two, strategic concerns.
> >
> > 3. (an aside) when looking in a hardware store
> (big
> > chain type) I asked young sales person.."yeah but
> > don't you have this item made in Canada?" reply-
> "Oh
> > we don't make anything here anymore." Yikes! but
> > almost true!
> >
> > 4.By saving a few cents in the short term buying
> > Chinese made stuff, we are doing ourselves SERIOUS
> > longterm damage..economically, and perhaps
> > strategically. As much as possible I avoid buying
> > Chinese stuff and buy Cdn or US. The little extra
> that
> > costs is, to me, well worth it to keep my
> country's
> > economy afloat and my own countrymen working.
> >
> > 5.Strategically, China is building a vast, and
> very
> > modern military, and even if it's not the 1st rate
> > high tech stuff the US has, to use a metaphor: as
> > proven in WWII, a thousand 2nd rate tanks, can
> easily
> > defeat a few hundred 1st rate tanks, (planes,
> > missiles, whatever)
> >
> > 6 Prediction: If China invades Taiwan, the US will
> > huff and puff but do nothing.
> >
> > Your thoughts?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Stephen Grammont <islander@midmaine.com>
> wrote:
> > > Fortunately to screw with the US Dollar means
> near
> > > certain economic
> > > collapse for China. And economic collapse would
> > > likely lead to
> > > political implosion. So it would appear
> unlikely
> > > that they would dump
> > > the Dollar simply because it would be suicide.
> The
> > > real threat is if
> > > the Chinese start using something less than this
> as
> > > leverage in an
> > > overt way like the US did to the UK many years
> ago
> > > over the Suez
> > > Crisis. In other words, "we can do this and it
> > > might hurt us, but it
> > > for sure will hurt you a lot more".
> > >
> > > Joe wrote:
> > >
> > > " It seems that our government is blind to the
> > > matter. "
> > >
> > > According to conservative thinking, government
> > > should not only be blind
> > > but gagged and tied up in locked closet. And in
> a
> > > free market economy
> > > this is, for the most part, the way it should be
> > > (i.e. government
> > > keeping its fingers out of the market system),
> as
> > > opposed to the more
> > > liberal point of view where government meddles
> in
> > > pretty much
> > > everything. But both points of view are off the
> > > mark because
> > > government is not the problem with the trade
> deficit
> > > and its ill
> > > effects... the consumer/voter is. It is the
> > > consumer that made WalMart
> > > bigger than General Motors, not the government.
> > > Government isn't out
> > > there shopping at 2am to get the best bargains
> > > (though neither
> > > government of the consumer is spending within
> its
> > > means <g>). It is
> > > the consumer that demands "lowest prices" and
> yet
> > > bitches about how
> > > their jobs are being shipped overseas. And it
> is
> > > the consumer, as
> > > voter, that doesn't require its politicians to
> do
> > > things like balancing
> > > the budget, paying down the deficit instead of
> > > giving out tax breaks,
> > > and signing FAIR trade instead of "free trade"
> > > treaties.
> > >
> > > One thing can be said... this inbalance can't go
> on
> > > forever in this
> > > direction.
> > >
> > > Steve (a devout capitalist who still finds ways
> to
> > > NOT shop at Wal-Mart)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 15, 2005, at 11:42 PM, Mil-Veh Co. wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yep, China has got us by the greenbacks and
> they
> > > could
> > > > send us into economic Hell at a moments
> > > > notice...course it would hurt them too, big
> time I
> > > > suspect, but then the Chinese are used to
> > > adversity,
> > > > not so sure about the typical American. I'm
> > > thinking
> > > > Americans are pretty soft at this point. The
> big
> > > > question is when will China go for
> Taiwan...think
> > > I
> > > > better sell my 10 shares of Walmart stock
> before
> > > the
> > > > shooting starts!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- JoeYoungInc@aol.com wrote:
> > > >> Good post, but I wonder how long it would
> take
>
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