From: Rick v100 (rickv100@yahoo.com)
Date: Fri Apr 29 2005 - 04:58:37 PDT
John,
The main point that websites die is because the pages
are static and most never get updated, people change
service providers or most importantly it gets too
expensive or people don't feel like paying hosting
fees.
I think that the web is a great place for doing
primary research as far as whats available out there
and it saves road trips to places just to find out if
they have the material you need.
There are some great sites out there, AFV Interiors
comes to mind but it has had the bandwidth hosting fee
issues as have any successful website.
Care to elaborate on what a trained historian is? I
have a history degree and don't think I was trained in
anything except memorizing dates.
Rick
Former website owner
--- "Adams-Graf, John" <John.Adams-Graf@fwpubs.com>
wrote:
> Ryan:
> If you care to argue about the Web being a viable
> source for record keeping, I am prepared, but lets
> take it off the list. As a quick point of reference
> however, pull down your list of "favorites" and
> revisit all the web sites you have tagged in 10
> years....I would think you will find a good number
> of sites don't exist anymore. The point being, the
> web is not a library where one can go for material.
> Have a 286 or Apple IIE computer from which you
> never transferred all your important records? If so,
> you will understand the inherent weakness of
> non-print media. Can you readily lay your hands on
> a favorite documentary you saw on television in the
> mid 1970s? Those are "documents". Any
> scholar/researcher/TRAINED historian will tell you,
> "if you can't trace back to the source of
> information, the information is not useable as a
> standard." The Web, though loaded with wonderful
> information, has not provided the means (like the
> Library of Congress), for recording information for
> posterity.
>
> The other problem with Web-based research, is it
> tends to be full of opinions. When was the last time
> you saw someone footnote a posting? Information
> found on the Web is about the same as finding a coin
> on the street. It is fun to pick up and more fun to
> spend, but if you go back to that same spot on the
> street, is unlikely you will find more
> valuables....and you DEFINITELY won't find the
> source of the original coin!
>
> So, the point is, if you found some info you like,
> print it out. Try to record the where you found it.
> The Web is an ever-evolving media that doesn't rely
> on archiving for its existence. Don't let it confuse
> you into thinking what you found on it today will be
> there tomorrow. More importantly, question the
> research behind all that you find on it.
>
> Stepping off the soapbox...
> John A-G
> Iola, WI USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]On
> Behalf Of Ryan Gill
> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:04 PM
> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [MV] Bob has the means and knows his
> stuff!
>
>
> At 5:06 PM -0500 4/28/05, Adams-Graf, John wrote:
> >
> >If the Mr. Guffee's Jeep isn't a secret, why hasn't
> anyone who uses it as a point of reference actually
> published it? I am sorry...."publishing on the web"
> is not (again, in my opinion) "publishing". The web
> is too fluid. What is here today, won't be here in
> 10 years.
>
> Umm, seen Google? I can find stuff I posted over 10
> years ago to a medium that most folks don't look at
> any more. Usenet.
>
>
labrg@emory.edu&rnum=3&hl=en#18bd4262c792864c">http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.guns/browse_thread/thread/25e047e6ea54fc70/18bd4262c792864c?q=labrg@emory.edu&rnum=3&hl=en#18bd4262c792864c
>
>
labrg@emory.edu&rnum=8&hl=en#a16b70dd3b92355d">http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sci.military.moderated/browse_thread/thread/178e546da077286b/a16b70dd3b92355d?q=labrg@emory.edu&rnum=8&hl=en#a16b70dd3b92355d
>
>
labrg@emory.edu&rnum=40&hl=en#32e3961c349bc541">http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.motorcycles/browse_thread/thread/7c3f393f94089e6b/32e3961c349bc541?q=labrg@emory.edu&rnum=40&hl=en#32e3961c349bc541
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