Re: [MV] M35 series brakes-pinion brake

From: m35products (m35prod@optonline.net)
Date: Tue Aug 02 2005 - 08:03:19 PDT


Once again, a reader just doesn't seem to understand the concept of "if you
can't something nice, don't say anything."

Immediately upon my mentioning our new product, Bjorn feels the need to jump
right in and start the dis-information program. Bjorn, have you driven an
M35 with a pinion brake? Would you like one, on approval, to evaluate? Just
ask. My policy has always been "send it back if you don't like it."

I am in business (hobby, actually, according to my wife and the accountant)
to help owners of M35 trucks enjoy their vehicles, and to enjoy them safely.
The pinion brake concept (not mine... I must credit John Tennis, in fact,
for the M35 application) is an accessory brake, not designed to replace
service or parking brakes. It does, however, add considerable braking
ability to the service brake system, with no fancy extra equipment. It
simply TEE's into the service line at the rear axle, and bolts to the the
rear output flange thingie. The trucks will stop, and decisively. In
response to your assertion that driveline braking is inferior to wheel
braking - it's not a contest, it's an improvement. Let's allow my
customers to see for themselves, shall we?

My policy is simple. The customer drives the business. Naysayers do not.
There is always the manly-man who says that only a girly-man would need
power steering. I see by my saved messages that you, Bjorn, have made that
public assertion several times over the years. TACOM disagrees. There is
always the shade tree mechanic who would take $100 worth of drive flanges,
and spend 4 hours of his valuable time, making fake lockout hubs, (with
superfluous bearings, in fact) rather than cough up the $ for a real set.
There is a whole public thread about that concept, too, and it all seems to
be in your handwriting.

Now, we hear all the reasons why NOT to buy a pinion brake. Bjorn, please,
just let me try to make a few bucks here, OK? (the margin is around $20 for
each one.)

Did I badmouth your 12-volt to 24-volt taillight blackbox project? No. Even
though I could think of lots of reasons not to go that route, I even offered
to help you market them.

Thank you, Bjorn, for once again giving me the opportunity to get some free
publicity, by perpetuating your constant program of knocking down every
product that I have introduced. Go find something useful to do with your
spare time, rather than criticizing me. I hear there's a war on. Maybe you
could knit some bandages with the rest of the girls.

APB
www.M35products.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bjorn Brandstedt" <super_deuce@hotmail.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] M35 series brakes-pinion brake

> Be careful with pinion, hand and engine brakes they are "driveline" brakes
> and work via the differential.
>
> If the traction is questionable then you may lose control of the vehicle.
> Think about it. On a side slope the upper wheels will brake and it would
not
> slow the vehicle unless you have locking diffs.
>
> That's why the driveline brake is not well suited as a parking brake
either.
>
> I have driven my deuce for thousands of miles on the highway and found
> acceleration, speed and braking satisfactory with gross vehicle weights
> close to 26,000 lb.
> My biggest concern has been the wet pavement traction of the NDCC's and
I'll
> be checking out some Goodyear Unisteels soon, I hope.
> I did get a siping/grooving tool, but haven't had the nerve to cut my
NDCC's
> yet.
>
> Have a great day!
>
> Bjorn
> MVPA19212
> Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia
>
>
>
> >From: Marc Strangfeld <mjstrangfeld@yahoo.com>
> >To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> >Subject: Re: [MV] M35 series brakes-pinion brake
> >Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 02:13:01 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >This is the first time I've heard of the pinion brake
> >setup. It's genius! I'll have to put one after I
> >finish my other projects.
> >
> >
> >Marc
> >
> >
> >--- m35products <m35prod@optonline.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Many enthusiasts of the M35 find that the initial
> > > joyful ownership reaction
> > > eventually fades into a more sober realization of
> > > the truck's true
> > > personality.
> > >
> > > The M35 class (actually, the M44 class) has lots to
> > > be desired. It steers
> > > like a brick, and accelerates like one, too. Once it
> > > gets up to speed, which
> > > is a velocity not too impressive, it takes quite a
> > > bit of stomping and
> > > cursing to stop it.
> > >
> > > At my little company, we sell after-market widgets
> > > to make ownership a bit
> > > easier to rationalize.
> > >
> > > We sell power steering to make it turn, and lockout
> > > hubs to make it go
> > > faster. Now we sell a pretty nifty disc-brake
> > > accessory to make it stop
> > > better.
> > >
> > > The pinion brake can be added to any or all of the
> > > three axles, depending
> > > upon how quickly the driver needs to stop.
> > >
> > > We recommend that at least one be added to the
> > > rear-rear axle. The cost is
> > > around $400, and installation takes under an hour.
> > > It will make the truck
> > > stop, period.
> > >
> > > See www.imageevent.com/moosecreekmaple/m35a4 and
> > > click around until you see
> > > the rear pinion brake picture.
> > >
> > > A P Bloom
> > > www.M35products.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jim Zehr" <jimm1009@yahoo.com>
> > > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List"
> > > <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 9:25 PM
> > > Subject: [MV] M35 series brakes
> > >
> > >
> > > > This weekend there was a show on that showed Disc
> > > > Brake kits for the Rockwell axles used under the
> > > M35
> > > > series trucks. The brake kit manufacturer is
> > > > Differential Engineering.
> > > > The axles being modified were not use on a Deuce
> > > but
> > > > never the less it seems like a good thing if the
> > > rest
> > > > of the sstem could be worked out.
> > > > How do stock M35 "true-military" brakes work when
> > > all
> > > > components are in optimum condition?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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