Re: Flame

From: Claude W. Vaughn (vaughn@totalaccess.net)
Date: Sat Jan 21 2006 - 20:15:28 PST


TJ,

Very well said.

Those of you on this and other lists who do not wish to support the MVPA should not be members of the association. Keep your dues. If you loose the right to own a Former Military Vehicle you will at least have saved enough money to buy a few six packs.

Always remember... everything you write on this list is archived. Assume everything that touches the internet is archived somewhere. If you don't believe this to be true just wait a few days and search for this topic on Google (Hint: put your name within quotes and do a Google search... lucky is the person who is not found in the search
results).

There is not another organization like the MVPA. And I admit the MVPA is not the most perfect organization. Like other clubs and associations I belong to it must continue to grow and adapt to the current environment. There are new challenges that were not present even a decade ago. As I have said in an "off list" E-Mail, the MVPA needs to step
up a bit on this... The MVPA needs to be "the parent" and represent all of us. I believe the MVPA is now involved in the issues facing owners of not just armored vehicles in Kansas, but all HMV owners in Kansas.

I agree with TJ's "take a chill-pill" statement. There are people working on this. I believe all of this will work out well.

The MVPA and it's members really need to be a cohesive unit. I know there are members who are happy to just get the magazines. I was one of those members too. I use to have the "wait and see" what they will do for me attitude. I do support the MVPA. I do have disagreements with the Board. And I will work within the structure of the
association and the bylaws to effect change.

Those of you who have gripes about the MVPA need to voice them to the Board of Directors. Get involved. They will not know what is wrong unless you, as a member, tell them. And like any Board Member, I really won't care as much about your comments unless you are a "paid up, card carrying" member. If you are not a member, and you own an
Historic Military Vehicle, or are in any way involved with the hobby, or support the objectives of the MVPA, you should join (or re-join) the Association.

And remember: "You will only get out of the organization what you put into it".

Claude Vaughn
MVPA 1329

timothy.smith1@att.net wrote:

> Guys,
>
> Let's try to remain focused.
>
> So far this morning I've read about The Governator, oppressed sewer pipes (and the men who laid them), trampled politicians (I guess they actually STAMPEDE!..who would have guessed?!), disemboweling the MVPA, Ted Kennedy capers (THAT's a never-ending story), etc. What's next?...transgendered midgets Nazi's and rogue elephants?
>
> Clearly, every posting on this list can find its way out of this forum. In other words, your emails don't necessarily stop here.
>
> If you rant; if you come across as a reactionary; if your emails sound like they were written by a nut case, then someone who is keen on characterizing former military vehicle owners as folks who cannot be trusted to tie their shoelaces without supervision WILL use your postings against the hobby.
>
> Furthermore, (for those of you who would love to see the MVPA go the way of the Dodo bird) it is my humble opinion that now is NOT the time to undermine the only base of power we have.
>
> If you don't like the way the MVPA is doing business, deal with it AFTER this storm has passed. If they don't perform, you'll have plenty of arguments to support your cause. But right now, solidarity is important.
>
> As for the MVPA's involvement, or lack thereof, I recall several emails indicating the MVPA is getting involved. Am I the only one who got them?
>
> In short, take a chill-pill. Keep your eyes and ears glued to the list. Be constructive. Be smart. If you're a reactionary nut-job, you have the right to remain silent, (that's a nice way of saying STFU) and remember, anything you say, can, and will be used against you by someone who wants to see former MV's cut up into little tiny pieces.
>
> Flame on, brothers...I got the NOMEX underpants on.
> TJ
>
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