From: Randall Scheffler (roughdoc@comcast.net)
Date: Thu Feb 23 2006 - 16:25:54 PST
If the actual use of our historical military vehicles for their intended
purpose isn't on topic, then what else really is?
Why do we do this? I'm sure some really have some affection for the
products of Dodge, Studebaker, etc., but absent their use in war, what are
we trying to preserve?
Take away the war, and we might as well collect Mustangs and Corvettes.
Just my 2 1/2 cents worth.
-----Original Message-----
From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On Behalf
Of Lee
Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 2:20 PM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] *SPAM* [MV] history - flame on shields are up with new
anti-matter accessories - 1945 Marines raise the flag on Mt. Suribachi
I as well enjoy the history. I feel it's all related, but who am I
Lee
-----Original Message-----
>From: Everette <194cbteng@bellsouth.net>
>Sent: Feb 23, 2006 12:00 PM
>To: Military Vehicles Mailing List <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>Subject: Re: [MV] *SPAM* [MV] history - flame on shields are up with new
anti-matter accessories - 1945 Marines raise the flag on Mt. Suribachi
>
>I thought this was important, if you do not agree and your computer is like
>mine there is a tab that says "delete" use it - I do not post history very
>often and yes I have a list of people who wish to read it and most days I
>only send to them -- do hope you are as irate over other "off topic" posts
>as you seem to me about what I post -- and my history posts do have
>relevance to military vehicles... granted they do not try to buy or sell
>vehicles or parts, but there are things in life more important than trying
>to make a buck.
>
>I have used our list to seek advise about MVs and upon occasion give
advise.
>
>Everette ------ out
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Stu" <stuinnh@mvnut.us>
>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:54 AM
>Subject: Re: [MV] *SPAM* [MV] history - flame on shields are up with new
>anti-matter accessories - 1945 Marines raise the flag on Mt. Suribachi
>
>
>>I thought you were only gonna send this history channel OT stuff to those
>> who request it! If nobody sent you email asking for it then nobody wants
>> it. Please stop sending this stuff to the rest of us. The fair thing to
>> do
>> is only send it to those who ask for it. As I said before, I have the
>> History Channel already. Please stop!
>>
>> "Stu"
>> Southern NH, USA
>> "Live Free Or Die"
>>
>> MVPA #14790
>>
>> 1967 M151A1 Jeep 1964 M416 Trailer
>> 1985 M1008 CUCV Pickup
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Everette
>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 8:05 AM
>> To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
>> Subject: *SPAM* [MV] history - flame on shields are up with new
>> anti-matter
>> accessories - 1945 Marines raise the flag on Mt. Suribachi
>>
>>
>> February 23
>>
>> 1945 Marines raise the flag on Mt. Suribachi
>> On this day, during the battle for Iwo Jima, U.S. Marines raise the
>> American
>>
>> flag atop Mt. Suribachi, the highest point on the island of Iwo Jima and
a
>> key strategic point. Later, Marine commanders decide to raise a second,
>> larger flag, an event which an Associated Press photographer captured on
>> film. The resulting photograph became a defining image of the war.
>> The amphibious landings of Marines, after severe and relentless bombing
of
>> the island, began the morning of February 19, 1945, as the secretary of
>> the
>> navy, James Forrestal, accompanied by journalists, surveyed the scene
from
>> a
>>
>> command ship offshore. As the Marines made their way onto the island,
>> seven
>> Japanese battalions opened fire on the 9,000 Marines headed for them. By
>> that evening, more than 550 Marines were dead and more than 1,800 were
>> wounded.
>> In the face of such fierce counterattack, the Americans reconciled
>> themselves to the fact that Iwo Jima could be taken only one yard at a
>> time.
>>
>> A key position on the island was Mt. Suribachi, the center of the
Japanese
>> defense. The 28th Marine Regiment closed in and around the base of the
>> volcanic mountain at the rate of 400 yards per day, employing
>> flamethrowers,
>>
>> grenades, and demolition charges against the Japanese hidden in caves and
>> pillboxes (low concrete emplacements for machine-gun nests).
Approximately
>> 40 Marines finally began a climb up the volcanic ash mountain, which was
>> smoking from the constant bombardment, and at about 10 a.m. on February
>> 23,
>> a half-dozen Marines raised a small American flag on the peak--but not
>> before disposing of a Japanese officer who attempted to prevent them.
With
>> Mt. Suribachi claimed, one-third of Iwo Jima was under American control.
>> This first flag-raising was photographed by Marine photographer Sgt.
Louis
>> R. Lowery. On Lowery's way down Mt. Suribachi, he ran into AP
photographer
>> Joe Rosenthal and two other Marine photographers, PFC Bob Campbell and
PFC
>> Bill Genaust, who was shooting movies, informing them that the
>> flag-raising
>> they were looking for had already occurred, but encouraging them to check
>> out he view from the top of the hill. The three men continued up the
>> volcano.
>> Once atop Mt. Suribachi, Rosenthal attempted but was unable to find the
>> soldiers involved in the first flag-raising, deciding instead to
>> photograph
>> the second flag-raising, which featured a much bigger and more photogenic
>> Stars and Stripes. Lowery's film was sent back to military headquarters
>> for
>> processing via ordinary army post--and took a month to arrive.
Rosenthal's
>> film was sent by seaplane to Guam, and sent from there via radio-photo to
>> the United States. The photograph so impressed President Roosevelt that
he
>> ordered the men pictured in it to return home for a publicity tour.
>> Rosenthal later won a Pulitzer Prize for the photo, but for years was
>> forced
>>
>> to deny erroneous reports that he personally staged the second
>> flag-raising
>> and attempted to pass it off as the original.
>> Although the famous photograph has long led people to believe that the
>> flag-raising was a turning point in the fight for Iwo Jima, vicious
>> fighting
>>
>> to control the island actually continued for 31 more days.
>>
>> Deo adiuvante
>>
>>
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