From: Nigel Hay MILWEB (nigel@milweb.net)
Date: Tue Jun 20 2006 - 01:14:22 PDT
The death of Dutch collector Marinus Veldhuizen on 17th June 2006 will be
deeply felt by his friends and members of the MVT. Marinus became a member
of the Military Vehicle Conservation Group in 1975, after joining the
Group's 1975 Breakout Tour, he was one of the pioneers in Military Vehicle
restoration in Holland, he helped organise a large part of the Group's tour
to Arnhem in 1977. Marinus was born in Arnhem 7th January 1943, and after
the battle for the bridge at Arnhem in September 1944, when the population
was evacuated, he went too - in his pram – his first tour! His working life
started in banking, but he soon realised that a teacher’s life would be
better for him, since it allowed more time to restore his vehicles! His
energetic interest in Military Vehicles continued until prevented by
illness. His sparkling personality (behind the moustache) will always be
remembered as he rode his Harley, controlling the traffic during the tours,
or whizzing around on his Welbike; always willing to help anyone and a joy
and a priviledge to have known. He leaves a wife, Marleen, and three
children, Sanne, Mac and Bo, to whom we offer our very deepest and sincerest
condolences.
Warwick Offredi
Military Vehicle Trust
Press & Communications Officer
NIGEL HAY
Publisher
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-----Original Message-----
From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]On
Behalf Of Sonny Heath
Sent: 17 June 2006 17:33
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] antifreeze
Why would the word "Salt" be anything to hide?
Sonny
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arthur Bloom" <m35prod@optonline.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] antifreeze
> Yes, of course. But this is a family-oriented forum, and some things are
> best left to the reader's imagination.
>
> apb
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sonny Heath" <sonny@defuniak.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 9:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [MV] antifreeze
>
>
> | And do you all know what the first antifreeze was?
> |
> | Sonny
> |
> |
> | ----- Original Message -----
> | From: "Edward Greeley" <etgreeley@earthlink.net>
> | To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> | Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2006 12:04 AM
> | Subject: Re: [MV] antifreeze
> |
> |
> | > Excuse me for butting in, but...
> | >
> | > "Back in the day", anti-freeze certainly WAS flammable. Prior to WW-II
> and
> | > for a few years after, ethylene glycol was relatively expensive and
> | > relatively scarce. Methyl alcohol (or was it denatured ethyl alcohol?)
> was
> | > very commonly packaged and sold as automotive anti-freeze. In either
> case,
> | > the uncut alcohol certainly would burn. Many unenlightened old-timers
> | > don't understand the difference between glycol and alcohol, hence the
> | > confusion about the flammability of "anti-freeze."
> | >
> | > Among the drawbacks to the use of alcohol as anti-freeze was the fact
> that
> | > it would boil away and needed to be replenished periodically. Woe be
> unto
> | > the one who forgot to check the gravity of the alcohol-water mix
> | > anti-freeze before a cold snap. That was a common cause of busted
> blocks
> | > and/or popped core hole plugs "back in the day." Been there, done
> that.
> | >
> | > Just an olde phart who remembers...
> | >
> | > Everette wrote:
> | >> I was aware that mixed with water it would not burn, what I heard
> was
> | >> that undiluted anti-freeze would, apparently from what Dave wrote it
> is
> | >> the fumes from boiling anti-freeze will, I checked MSDS on ethylene
> | >> glycol that I have used in manufacturing and it provides instructions
> | >> dealing with spills that indicates it to be flammable...
> | >>
> | >> I suppose from a technical standpoint rum will not burn, when you
> make
> | >> Bananas Foster and sit them alight it is the alcohols in the rum that
> | >> burns.
> | >>
> | >> E
> | >>
> | >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Burke"
> <julian@knology.net>
> | >> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> | >> Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 3:34 PM
> | >> Subject: Re: [MV] antifreeze
> | >>
> | >>
> | >>>
> | >>> Anti freeze is not flamable-never was. Who told you that? Your
> mixture
> | >>> of kerosene was. Cars would be exploding in crashes or common
> radiator
> | >>> leaks! That's why it isn't flamable.
> | >>>
> | >>> Antifreeze was never meant to be used straight. 50/50 is the proper
> | >>> mix. You're right, straight antifreeze does not give proper
> protection.
> | >>> Think about it...................why isn't straight antifreeze
> better???
> | >>> It has to have a water content for the chemical mixture. Because
> of
> | >>> shipping is why it comes straight. You would need more mix and
> would
> | >>> then come in 5 gallon bottles. Would make it cost more too.
> | >>>
> | >>> Julian Burke
> | >>>
> | >>>
> | >>>
> | >>>
> | >>>> How much fluid in CUCV Radiator
> | >>>>
> | >>>> I have been told that the old familiar anti-freeze as it comes out
> of
> | >>>> bottle is flammable - never tried it - has anyone heard this, and
> what
> | >>>> about new stuff is it flammable?
> | >>>>
> | >>>> And while on subject - straight anti-freeze does not give same
> | >>>> protection from low temperature as 50/50 mix, it will freeze at a
> | >>>> higher temp than mix will. - so I have heard, never tried it.
> | >>>>
> | >>>> Back many years ago my buddies and I could not afford antifreeze -
> we
> | >>>> used 2/3 kerosene, 1/3 water and hand full of detergent - detergent
> | >>>> kept mixture mixed, at least we thought it did. Never had a freeze
> up.
> | >>>>
> | >>>> E
> | >
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