Military-Vehicles: [MV] What to do with an engine sitting for years.

[MV] What to do with an engine sitting for years.

Russell Bong (rbong@cda.com)
Wed, 13 Aug 97 18:36:48 -0500

I missed the earlier part of this message having gotten on the list ser=
ve=20
only hours ago. Can you copy me on the earlier part of this message=20=
=0Aregarding filling the engine block with oil?

I am looking at a 1952 M37 that has been sitting for a long time (years=
). =20
It has a 265 flat six in it (its the wrong engine--came out of a dump t=
ruck=20
or something???). the motor sits so high, that there isn't any room fo=
r an=20
airfilter housing. It has a motorcycle airfilter on it due to the limi=
ted=20
space.

If I buy the thing, I will need to get it started to get it back=20
home--about 40 miles away.

Any tips on what to do with the old fuel (drain it and fill tank with f=
resh=20
stuff, naturally), etc. would be deeply appreciated.

Russell Bong
Potential M37 owner
Falls Church, Virginia
rbong@cda.com

Just an additional note to my previous posting about filling the engine=

block with oil...

Depending on your engine and how such things like crankcase breathing..=
=2Eand
your distributor...are set up, there's a good chance you may end up get=
ting
some oil in a few unwanted places. Remove the distributor cap before
filling the block with oil. If some oil does seep into your distributor=
,
you will need to clean out this excess oil before starting the engine. =
Some
oil may also make its way into the manifolds, so expect some smoking wh=
en
you first start the engine. If you get oil in the intake manifold, you
might want to wick most of it out before starting the engine.

You might also consider letting the full block soak for a shorter perio=
d of
time to reduce the amount of oil that makes its way into the distributo=
r
(or other places).

I'm SURE I'll get some e-mail about how this approach is unnecessary, b=
ut
again, I think this is the only method that will coat ALL internal surf=
aces
with oil prior to starting the engine, even though it can be messy. I'd=

rather clean up some excess oil than damage the engine. After you're do=
ne,
just spray some 'Gunk' on the engine and hose it off.

Remember, the engine in this discussion has been sitting for YEARS. All=
of
the interior surfaces will be EXTREMELY dry. Metal-to-metal contact can=
not
only score surfaces, but can even melt low-temperature alloys, such as
bearing material. Even if you only score the metal, it may run fine for=
a
while, but those score marks are the nuclei for future failures.

I have one anecdote that I think supports my approach. A friend's
aircraft...a Piper Cherokee with a Lycoming O-320...had been in storage=
for
several years. He was advised by an aircraft mechanic to squirt some oi=
l in
each cylinder to free up any possibly stuck rings. He also hand cranked=
the
engine over several times to make sure it was clear...so far, so good. =
Then
he cranked over the engine with the starter with no spark plugs in plac=
e,
until the oil pressure finally came up. However, with the dry gears in =
the
oil pump and the relatively slow cranking speed, it took quite some tim=
e
for the pressure to come up. Meanwhile, he was cranking the engine with=

VERY dry main and con-rod bearings. Anyway, after replacing the plugs a=
nd
starting the engine, it ran for about half an hour before it started ma=
king
nasty clanking noises. Turns out that TWO con rod bearings were wiped o=
ut,
and ALL of the bearings showed serious scuffing. If he had filled the
crankcase with oil...even for a few minutes...it may have saved a prema=
ture
and expensive overhaul. At 6,000 dollars plus for a four-cylinder aircr=
aft
engine overhaul, who wants to take chances? So you may have to clean ou=
t a
bit of oil here and there...so what?

That said, y'all do what you want with your own engines.

Alan Bowes
(Salt Lake City, Utah)

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