Military-Vehicles: Re: [MV] Submarine Source?

Re: [MV] Submarine Source?

Geoff Winnington-Ball (
Tue, 28 Oct 1997 18:57:58 -0500

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But I'll fool you both by flying over in my Fairey Swordfish loaded down with
dummy (of course!) torpedo and depth charges.... you'll never shoot me down
becuz I'm made out of canvas and fly so slow! :-)

Steven P. Allen wrote:

> At 05:12 AM 10/28/97 -0800, you wrote:
> >Does anyone have a source or contact where one could
> >purchase a retired/obsolete diesel attack submarine?
> >It could be of Chinese or Russian origin. What kind of
> >issues would one have to face for something like this
> >this to be in private ownership, asuming that there
> >are no live arms on board and all Coast Guard regs
> >were met?
> Off-hand, you're going to need lots of $$$$$: not just for purchase but for
> up-keep and operation. Even subs are not designed to be economical in
> civilian terms. I'm not at all sure a Chinese boat could be had (have they
> ever decommissioned one?), and I'd bet you'll have trouble meeting Coast
> Guard regs with either a Russian or a Chinese boat. As for troubles, you're
> not going to have the extensive infrastructure to support you that a sub
> requires. Being so specialized, they ship a lot of equipment you couldn't
> buy off the shelf. Try to get LOTS of spares included in the purchase.
> Also, remember that ASW operations against Diesel subs are very much on the
> minds of western navies at the moment as the threat of a lone operator or
> terrorist-sponsered operation is being seriously considered. Unless you are
> very up-front about your operations, you may well discover this too late as
> someone drops a Mk 50 torpedo in the water near you.
> Nevertheless, I wish you luck, and envy you the muscle and the chutzpah that
> even contemplating this takes. I've long wanted my own guided-missle
> frigate. If I win a couple of lotteries and succeed, do you want to go out
> and re-enact "The Enemy Below"? Talk about an event!
> Steve Allen
> ===
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