[MV] Suggestions

Jason Rose (m151a1@micron.net)
Thu, 4 Mar 1999 05:41:28 -0700

Friends,

Right now through the US there is a stigma attached to all legally-owned
firearms and military vehicles. The liberally-biased media would have
everyone think nobody "has any REASON" to own these vehicles. The reason I
own them is for personal pleasure. As stated by one poster, I have an NFA
weapon. I had to go through background check after background check to get
it. They don't authorize people to have them if they are past felons.....

Here in Idaho, we are taking a different approach. We as an MV club are
trying to sanction different kinds of events to boost the image of our hobby
to the general public. Every year the boy scouts have an Arbor Day tree
planting day. This year, we are going to try and load boy scouts in the
back of trucks and take them out and help them plant. We also have several
parade activities planned. There are airshows we are going to attend.

Basically, as a national club, we should try and be outgoing in doing a few
things people will really appreciate. Has anyone thought about and "adopt a
highway program"? Taking mv's out and picking up trash along a mile of
freeway would give us a lot of attention.....

Just my $.02

Jason
Pres, ID MVPA
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Shoop <shoop19@idt.net>
To: Glenn Shaw <dogstar@gis.net>
Cc: mil-veh@skylee.com <mil-veh@skylee.com>
Date: Thursday, March 04, 1999 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] Politics and MV's

>At 07:39 AM 3/2/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>Jon
>>Why dont you give us the specifics of your military vehicle
>>problem with the government. We would all find it interesting.
>>What was this vehicle? How did the problem arise with it?
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>I own some M114's......one was displayed at a local museum...someone
>reported to the Feds that some illegal activity was being conducted there
>and they got a Federal Judge to issue warrants, confiscating everything in
>the place.
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>Even after producing paperwork, they lollygagged and I felt they would not
>ever return my personal property...until I had my Lawyer get into the act.
>5 months later..I am told to go to gate so and so, and see so and so...sign
>in and don't touch anything but your property and remove it ASAP! Asking
>for written permission, I was turned down.
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>There was NO problem with this vehicle...never was..they had paperwork just
>like mine........they knew! They just wanted to flex a few muscles...and
>see if they could outlast me.......WRONG!
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>These guys don't care about our rights...or our property....believe
>me...they will do whatever the master tells them to do..with gusto!
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>Just my opinion, OK?
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>Jon
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>>Glenn MVPA
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>>Jon Shoop wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry Guys....My rant...but I'm done.
>>>
>>> Let me say this. I have never crossed paths with a Branch Dividian, or
>>> Randy Weaver...or Freemen, not even a rebel militiaman or a Hamas
>>> terrorist...but I have been visited by two of the largest terrorist
>>> organizations in the world...the FBI and the ATF.
>>>
>>> You see...I own some AMERICAN armor...that they saw fit to
>>> confiscate....and in turn, hold me HOSTAGE for over 5 months, while the
>>> investigated my ownership of the vehicle in question. Never mind that I
>>> have complete documentation from the GOVERNMENT...giving me complete and
>>> total control of this vehicle!
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>>> It didn't matter....they were not concerned with my rights...or
>>> property....Hell...the refused to give me a written ok, to claim my
>>> property when they released it to me.
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>>> I am no terrorist...they knew that...they knew me well..as i have given
>>> them my fingerprints and had them look up my backside several times in
the
>>> last 20 years as I applied for several for several federal licenses that
I
>>> hold, over that period of time....
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>>> It didn't take them over 5 months to do their job....they ran it out
until
>>> my lawyer got on their ass to get moving...and demanded return of my
>>> property, that they had no intention of ever returning to me.
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