Re: [MV] WWII? French Headlights.

Richard Notton (Richard@fv623.demon.co.uk)
Sun, 4 Jul 1999 00:01:58 +0100

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From: GIjeepsWW2@aol.com <GIjeepsWW2@aol.com>
To: mil-veh@skylee.com <mil-veh@skylee.com>
Date: 03 July 1999 03:34
Subject: [MV] WWII? French Headlights.

> Need some information about these headlights that came one on of my
>jeeps. They are a two piece affair with a removable bulb unit held into an
>outer case by a bent wire spring retainer. I need some of the removable bulb
>units to replace one that is burned out and to keep a few spares around. I
>will describe them to the many wise and helpful people on this list and hope
>that you can help me.
>
I've been round this before off list with others but it might help to explain
the arrangements in Europe.

Unlike the States we last used a sealed beam headlight in the early 70's, since
then everything has separate, replaceable bulbs. Running in parallel some
immediate post and pre-war vehicles used the British pre-focus bulb.

> On the glass face of the outer casing: A large letter A on a shield
>shape. The name AUTEROCHE on the left side (when facing the bulb) and a
>product brand, a large E and a small 2 in a circle with 122 below that, on
>the right side. Flip the outer casing over and it has Made in France, in
>english, stamped in white ink.
>
The E2 is a mandatory marking to show type approval in the EEC and is to be
found on all modern bulbs and lenses front and rear.

> On the bulb unit the three prongs are found on the back and there are
>no markings on the back. On the front center we see the same E2 in a circle
>that was found on the outer casing face with the name NORMA above it. K5 and
>01 on either side and 6V 45/40W below the E2 symbol. Below the 6v marking we
>see Made in France again. They produce white light not yellow as I am led to
>understand the post war Hotchkiss lights did.
>
The three prongs on the back will take a standard US type connector using the
same pins for ground high beam and dip (dim). The French have long since given
up on yellow lights, theoretically for anti-dazzle but removing a large portion
of the visible spectrum is the same as a white light of lower power.

The base configurations readily available are:

British Pre-Focus (BPF) - plain tungsten bulb with twin solder blob connections
and a large rim with a small half circle cut-out to align it in the light unit,
retained by a three prong bayonet cap assembly carrying the sprung contacts.
Largely obsolete by the 70's.

P43t Halogen H4 - the current twin filament bulb with a disc base with three
large locating ears, legally 60/55W but readily available (marked for off-road
use only) in 100/80, 130/90 and 180/100W. For 24V 75/70W. Three .25" blade
connections US compatible. Spring wire retainer in lens assembly.

H1 halogen - single filament for multiple light set-ups and auxiliary lights,
small disc base with a chord removed for alignment, single .25" connection,
available from 55W (Europe legal) to 180W. Spring wire retainer in lens
assembly.

P45t asymetric - Was very popular on the continent and is, I believe what your
Hotchkiss has. !2v versions in halogen and tungsten but the latter are always
45/40W. Has a large glass bulb and stepped disc base that inserts only 1/8" or
so into the light unit and is aligned by very small pressings in the base or a
pair of small punched tags. Three .25" blade terminals that are NOT aligned
with the bulb fitted axis but always lean a bit to one side. To be found as
100/100 and 75/70 in many 60's & 70's UK mil vehicles using FV426612 immersible
headlight units, eg., Stalwart, Ferret, 432, 433, 434, Saracen, Saladin,
Scorpion, Fox, Centurion, Chieftain etc.

Readily available here in 6V but you need a "continental" to get them as the
Brit ones will dip (dim) to the wrong side ! This might be difficult as France
has, I believe, adopted a system of "dealer only" for all spares, there are no
aftermarket parts or pattern supplies as we have here.

I can email all the base drawings separately if you wish.

Richard
(Southampton UK)

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