[MV] Form 97

Julian Burke (julianb@esper.com)
Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:32:58 -0400

"GSA. I also thought that the form 97 was a DRMO form. Has anyone ever got
one
from GSA?"

A form 97 is special multi-page document (looks/is like a tractor feed
computer form) that is to be typed in with the buyer's full name and address
and price typed in that is issued by ANY Gov't agency that would have/sell
any vehicle. (FBI, Forestry, EPA, any other three letter organizations, the
list is a very long one) Many however fall into "GSA". It is only typed in
AFTER the vehicle has been sold. If a vehicle is donated to a "municiple"
(police dept), then a form 97 will also be issued to establish ownership.
Since the Gov't itself doesn't use "titles", it is their way of
selling/disposing vehicles with a "MSO". (manufacturers statement of origin)
There is no 97 on a vehicle UNTIL AFTER it is sold and leaving the Federal
Gov't agency either into private or state hands. The Gov't buys vehicles
either with MSO's or mainly just a "blanket list" of a bill of sale to the
agency. The Gov't is also "self insuring" so ownership is not an issue.
Tags are assigned to a vehicle for its' life in Gov't service. If no tag is
assigned, then the VIN will be its' "tag", ie; military vehicles or numbers
that reflect a VIN. This is what got many M151A2's in trouble because 97's
were non-existant for most if not all of them. (Remember the paper trail I
spoke about?) The FBI for example, commonly holds sales perhaps once a
month more/less big /smaller cities and either confiscated or Gov't sedans
are sold by auction or sealed bid. Contacting your local GSA office will
get you on their "temporary" mailing list meaning if you continue to
buy/bid, you will remain on it and if you don't, you usually are dropped
after 3 mailings. A form 97 is issued by any property officer of the
Federal Gov't. This is what a "97" is and may not be limited to what I have
covered here. Taking a restricted 97 and trying to "launder" or change its'
meaning makes you an "IDIOT, MORON, or FELON" or all three. If this offends
some, let the shoe fit as I stand by what I say. When I see postings of
"idiot rumors" such as these and get a reply like this:

"I know us normal people on the list are not as smart as you are Julian
but you don't need to call us a bunch of idiots. Just because we get a
bit confused doesn't mean we are stupid. If you have some knowledge to
dispense to us mere mortals then stick to the facts, just keep the name
calling out of it."

I have to be like old Sarge, pull you to the corner AND TELL IT LIKE IT IS!
Proudly signing my name to this, Sincerely, Julian Burke

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