Re: Surplus (was:UNCLAS//N11240//Re: [MV] Import/MV's)

Walter W Keller II (tokarev@earthlink.net)
Fri, 06 Aug 1999 18:17:21 -0400

Better yet we could exercise our second amendment rights on the invaders.
Walter Keller

"William R. Benson" wrote:

> Alright... Somebody invade this country so we can get on the receiving end
> of a Lend-Lease deal and salvage the resulting MVs!
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> (Is it safe to come out yet?)
>
> Bill
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> "Antoine Compin" <acompin@earthlink.net> on 07/06/99 02:11:04 PM
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> Please respond to "Antoine Compin" <acompin@earthlink.net>
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> To: "Joe Foley" <redmenaced@yahoo.com>, "\"Mil-Veh\""
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> cc: (bcc: William R. Benson/PLG)
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> Subject: Re: Surplus (was:UNCLAS//N11240//Re: [MV]
> Import/MV's)
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> It would be very interesting to have the knowledgeable point of
> view of an historian well versed in Lend-Lease and
> Cash-and-Carry programs. I seem to recall that there was
> something in the language of these governments that precluded
> the repatriation of the US-Made equipment back into the US...
> Or could it be that the QMC and Ordnance contracts with the
> civilian American car makers had language limiting the resale of
> these vehicles as surplus on American territory?
> I know this was not a concern at all for Lend-Lease stuff going
> into foreign countries army surplus...
> Is there in the list someone who actually knows? it may not be
> such an "often-told lie" after all...
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joe Foley <redmenaced@yahoo.com>
> To: <mil-veh@skylee.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 06, 1999 1:42 PM
> Subject: Re: UNCLAS//N11240//Re: [MV] Import/MV's
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> > --- Glenn Goodman <GGOODMAN@novell.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Steve wrote:
> > > I believe it has evreything to do with protecting
> > > the market for civilian
> > > vehicle manufacturers. After all, enormous stocks of
> > > good equipment were
> > > dumped at sea after WW2 (eg. "Million-dollar Point"
> > > in the Solomons) rather
> > > that be sold as surplus. It allowed manufacturers to
> > > make brand-new stuff,
> > > which otherwise would not have happened. It gets the
> > > economy moving again.
> > >
> > > Steve.
> > > steven@phaedra.apana.org.au
> > >
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> > > I believe you are correct for the most part. And
> > > that would be fine and good for vehicles that are
> > > also produced for the public. What about vehicles
> > > that the civvy market does not produce? Like right
> > > hand drive vehicles that some people have a valid
> > > need for. (My wife is a rural mail carrier and we
> > > had to purchase a vehicle for her.)
> > > And now they are surplusing pickups and SUVs and
> > > bunches of other stuff, but no jeeps. What gives?
> > > They ought to at least be consistent. I also don't
> > > like the fact that I've already paid for items they
> > > are destroying. If someone came up with a way to
> > > market surplus better I'll bet we could stimulate
> > > the economy without all the waste. Waste drives me
> > > nuts. That's why I like this list. We all have a
> > > basic desire to preserve the rare.
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > YOU'RE RIGHT!!!!
> >
> > I don't think Steve is a liar, but what he's saying is one of
> those
> > "often told lies" that seem to be true because they are told
> so often.
> >
> > I can't believe that the economy woiuld have suffered after
> the war
> > because of the availibility of heavy trucks, logging and
> farming would
> > have been just two of the beneficiaries. Oil produciton would
> have
> > still been hot and heavy because of the cheaply available
> vehicles.
> >
> > You know, I think the economy would have been better off if
> they hadn't
> > destroyed all of those vehicles. Just like today when the
> government
> > says the economy is so good one has to ask "Who's
> economy?!?!??!" Sure
> > the car companies MAY have suffered but someone would have
> found a way
> > to profit, its just a question of who.
> >
> > Joe
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