<< I still think that the use of
the National Symbol, as described in the Painting TM, relates to
International Agreements on the conduct of warfare. As far as the Mutt
ambulance goes, the TM says so specifically! I would still like to hear an
explanation as to why USMC vehicles are allegedly "exempt" from using the
Star........ someone promised to quote from the USMC-version of the Painting
TM...... so perhaps the answer is in there somewhere. >>
Okay, what I actually said was I would look up if anyone was sceptical, you
are first person to ask for this, so here goes.....
But first....
We need to clear up another matter, which I believe is innocent
mis-interpretation of manual regarding stars, red crosses and Geneva
Convention....
I have deleted previous email already, so I don't know who cited what manual
as saying all vehicles EXCEPT ambulances must have national symbol, so I
don't know EXACTLY what it says, BUT I do have Army manuals TB43-0209 "Color,
marking & comouflage...Oct 1976" and TB746-93-1 "Color and marking....Oct
1964".
TB43-0209 (covering, BTW, the 4 color camo) says, Section III, paragraph 8a...
"The national symbol is a 5-pointed star in lusterless black No. 37038, of a
size that fits inside a 3 inch diameter circle...will be applied to vehicles
and equipment only when withdrawn for issue to US Army units. It will not be
applied to ambulance or other medical service vehicles affected by
international agreement concerning such vehicles."
TB 746-93-1, section IV, paragraph 16d..."The National Symbol will not be
applied to Medical Service Vehicles."
The international agreement mentioned here does not PRESCRIBE the national
symbol on certain vehicles, rather, it merely FORBIDS it on certain vehicles.
Further, somewhere around here I have manual on camo that says whitewash
entire vehicle in winter, nothing said about remarking...
This all being said we will move on to USMC MCO P4750.3 (December 1963), a
nifty little book entitled "Painting and Registration Marking of Marine Corps
Tactical and Combat Equipment."
Unlike the Army counterparts, not much text in its pages, but drawing after
drawing of vehicles, with the markings all carefully located on each piece,
but not a single star to be found ANYWHERE in the manual, either in drawing
or mentioned in text.
BTW, the marking color prescribed in this is yellow.
While we are at this we may as well cover USAF too...
USAF T.O. 36-1-3 (Sept 1958) Section III paragraph 5a "A white, five-pointed
star is prescribed as the national symbol, which will be used for marking all
vehicles assigned to units in overseas operation. This symbol will be
applied when directed by the theater commander."
Paragraph 5c "On horizontal surfaces, the star will be placed so that one of
the five points is directed toward the rear of the vehicle" (Directly
opposite orientation in Army manual TB 746-93-1!)
Paragraph 5d "The national symbol will not be used on vehicles operated in
the continental United States"
Hope this helps,
David Doyle
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