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Harley-Davidson 42 WLA
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MVPA #14803, MVCG France
----- Original Message -----
From: jonathon <jemery@execpc.com>
To: <mil-veh@skylee.com>
Sent: Saturday, October 23, 1999 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] Some interesting correspondence from the MVPA
>
> >From: Jerry Cleveland <zephyr@qadas.com>
> >....
> >> Dear Mr. Reese;
> >>
> >> We elected to drop The American Story, Inc. from our list
of Internet
> >> links because of public remarks by your associate, John
Seidts.
> >>
> >> Among other things, his statements included: "The MVPA has
had a long
> >> standing tradition of problems or 'trouble at the top,'
which have left
> >> it little more than an old men's marching and chowder club
with a very
> >> elitist method of approaching its membership," and "I don't
know how long
> >> you've been in the MVPA, but the old MVCC was like this
back in the
> >> 1980's. It was bad news then, and is bad news today."
>
> Ok, two problems here.
>
> #1) the quotes above was presumably from a mil-veh post
presumably posted by
> John Seidts. This is NOT a public statement. This is a
statement by one
> member of a private BS club to the rest of the people who
happened to be
> standing close enough to hear him (figuratively speaking).
This is not
> print or broadcast media, this is not a letter to the editor,
this is a
> private club.
>
> #2) Again I point out (as I have made this statement in the
past) that
> this list, as well as all listervs and usenet, are for the
benifit of the
> participants only. I am bothered by the MVPA eavsdropping in
on our little
> round table chit chat, recording said chit chat, then using
it against
> someone or more people when they do not nor have they ever
PARTICIPATED in
> what is going on here.
>
> I'm an old man, internet speaking (1985), and maybe my
opintions are tainted
> by many years of involvement with usenet, listservs. email,
etc. Maybe you
> young'ns don't see the problem or aren't bothered by it, if
your not, maybe
> you need to think about what the 'old world' equivelant to the
internet and
> everything that goes on withinit are. A listserv, like
mil-veh, is a bunch
> of people standing around in the parking lot of a car show
shooting the
> breese in various little groupies about whatever topic comes
up, related to
> military vehicles. Nobody is stating anything for the record,
there are no
> reporters or cameras, nobody is making official statements,
it's just talk.
> Some of it's true, some isn't, some of it is opinion and some
is fact, some
> people are happy about it, some get angry, but it's just talk.
That is all.
>
> je
>
>
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