Re: [MV] 5 ton locomotive

Dave Cole (
Sun, 24 Oct 1999 19:47:06 -0500

I never knew that.

I grew up in Plymouth during high school and about a 1/2 mile from our
house there was a guy who had a full blown small rail road setup in his
multi-acre field. He used to give kids rides on the rail cars. They
looked factory made, it sounds like they were.

The guys house was right on Joy road, West of Lilley Rd on the south
side. The guy died, and one day I drove by and all of the track had been
removed, that was probably in the late 70's.

FWIW, Plymouth, MI was also the location of the original Daisy B-B gun
factory. You may want to check out the historical society of Plymouth.
They have a pretty good size building in town. Of course I was a local
so I have never been there. (;->)


On Mon, 18 Oct 1999 13:01:00 -0500 jim gilmore <>
>Mike wrote;
>>I guess there was a 5 ton locomotive (draw bar pull).
>>It just seemed to small even to move cars in a yard
>>thinking it was the weight of vehicle (instead of draw
>>bar pull).....
> The 5 ton designation is NOT the draw bar pull. It is the
>weight of
>the locomotive. The Fate-Root-Heath Company was located in Plymouth,
> They were/are a major producer of small industrial type locomotives.
>were sold under the trade name "Plymouth" and most are so marked on
>radiator shroud (front) of the locomotive. While 5 ton seems to be
>small, these types of engines were made as light as 2 1/2 tons. The
>used such 5 ton engines at several Camps and Forts (bases) which had
>own light railways. Fort Dix and Fort Benning both had extensive 60
>gauge railways that used small locomotives including Plymouths. These
>railways ran up until about 1946.
> Some of this 60 cm equipment was located at one time in
>Martensdale, Iowa.
>I didn't get a picture yet, and
>>would like to see one if anyone has one.
> In my digging in the National Archives I found several photos of
>small Army locomotives from the WW II time period. Being a railroad
>nut as
>well as a MV one I made copies of them. I'll look in the stacks of
>photocopies and see if I have a photo of this loco.
> Jim Gilmore MVPA # 5843
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