The Russians have done an excellant job of Marketing the URAL to the US buyer I
esspecially like the part in there factory explenation of how they can produce
them so cheeply by telling the American public that the mortgage on the Factory
is" long been paid for."
I am involved in Exporting Chang Jiangs from Xiamen China, to parts of the world
other that the US. I will send you all you could ever want or need. I am
especially interested in finding enterprising Americans that will do the same
type of Marketing to the American public as the Russians did. This business is
big and I can undersell the Russians by alot per unit. Any takers??
Tim Conover
Xiamen, China.
James Shanks wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antoine <antoine@usa.net>
> To: Lars-Uwe Rudek <Rudek@shh-hamburg.de>; mil-veh@skylee.com
> <mil-veh@skylee.com>
> Date: Friday, November 19, 1999 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] BMW R12/Chinese and Russian replicas
>
> >Lars, thanks for the clarificsation. I knew about the
> >German-Soviet Pact, but assumed that the full seizing of a plant
> >an its tooling was somewhat outside of the purview on an
> >"exchange of technology"... And given the change of heart of
> >Hitler towards the Soviets, it's conceivable that retaliation
> >was the order of th4 day in 1945... As far as I know the M72 was
> >manufactured starting in 1946, not during the war, but I might
> >be wrong...
> >I would be interested in contacting these shops in Germany,
> >since the internals of this engine are very similar to the
> >internals of my XA's, as I could check from drawings kindly
> >forwarded to me by Tim Conover in China. Especially oil seals,
> >clutch springs, and ref numbers for Mahle pistons. Can you
> >please post their whereabouts here, it might interest other
> >listees too..
> >Thanks
> >Antoine
> >Sherman Oaks, California
> >Normandy, France
> >http://www.freehomepages.com/antoine
> >http://www.powow.com/harley42xa
> >
> >43 Willys MB
> >43 MBT Trailer
> >Harley-Davidson 42 WLA
> >Harley-Davidson 42 XA (x2)
> >MVPA #14803, MVCG France
> >
>
> Antonie,
>
> I own a 1998 Ural as the machine is known here and it did indeed start
> production in Moscow in late 1940 early 1941. When the Germans attacked
> Russia they moved much faster than the Russians expected ( remember they
> only stopped the Germans 17 miles from Moscow) they decided to move the
> entire plant from Moscow to Irbit, Siberia where it still is today cranking
> out 600 motorcycles a day 6 days a week.
>
> Check out this website in merry old England
>
> http://www.uralmoto.com/ Click on the word enter to enter the
> site and scroll down the next page that comes up to the "Brief History
> Uralmoto Zavod" for the real story. If you like I could send you pics of my
> "Tourist" Ural which is an excellent way to enjoy motorcycling on and off
> the road.
>
> One of these days who knows I just might come across a Chang Jang and
> grab it for myself. I haven't run across one yet but when I do I might just
> try to "grab" it for myself.
>
> James Shanks
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> n1vbn@bit-net.com
> The line below is my Ham Radio Packet Address
> n1vbn@N1VBN @ WB1DSW.NH.USA.NOAM
>
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