RE: [MV] Police Work .02 worth

From: Rikk Rogers (rkltd@swbell.net)
Date: Tue Jan 07 2003 - 18:56:21 PST


Many years ago, while studying Law Enforcement at Northern Oklahoma College
it was made solidly clear to our class of future Wannabe's that a citizen,
faced with an illegal arrest, IS justified in using deadly force to resist.
While I don't like the idea of "flying off the handle" and shooting someone.
Nor, the idea of "nuts with guns" blasting away for no reason.

Knowing full well that the guy across the table may well "justifiably" blow
your head off, does tend to cause just a bit more along the line of polite.
Over all, this looks like a training issue.

MV's anyone?

Rikk Rogers - RK Lion LTD.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Military Vehicles Mailing List [mailto:mil-veh@mil-veh.org]On
Behalf Of Richard Lathrop
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 2:23 AM
To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
Subject: Re: [MV] Police Work

While this topic is way off for the list. Lets turn it around. If the
officer had gotten mauled by the dog how many of us would be criticising the
officer for not shooting the dog?

The officers were heading into a situation with little knowledge and making
the best call at the moment. In hind sight it might be wrong but at least
they are still around to regret there actions.

To put it more on topic think about how many other times in history that
members of our armed forces have been forced to make snap decisions they
regret later.

Rick

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Dave Ball" <vought@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2003 23:45:05 -0800

>Adrenalin is always going to get Cops in trouble they need to slow down
>think and then act but what usually happens is they get hyped then over
>react then someone gets hurt and the cops have to apologize. I hope someone
>goes to work at burger king maybe he will have some time to think about
>shooting the family dog while he flips the burgers.
>This will probably be on the good cops gone bad show or is that good dogs
>gone bad oh well its one of those
>Dave
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "mark baxter" <alleywayguns@bacavalley.com>
>To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 11:19 PM
>Subject: Re: [MV] Police Work
>
>
>> Interesting story, I hope these folks win in court! Mark M-886
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John K. Seidts" <john@astory.com>
>> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
>> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 11:01 PM
>> Subject: [MV] Police Work
>>
>>
>> > Don't know how accurate this is, but I got it from a source. Lessons
>for
>> > all...
>> >
>> > 'Felony stop' leaves family traumatized
>> > Mary Jo Denton
>> > Herald-Citizen Staff
>> >
>> > It was the most traumatic experience the Smoak family of North Carolina
>> has
>> > ever had, and it happened yesterday afternoon as they traveled through
>> > Cookeville on their way home from a vacation in Nashville.
>> > Before their ordeal was over, three members of the family had been
>yanked
>> > out of their car and handcuffed on the side of Interstate 40 in
downtown
>> > Cookeville, and their beloved dog, Patton, had been shot to death by a
>> > police officer as they watched.
>> >
>> > What was their crime?
>> >
>> > There was no crime.
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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