Re: [MV] Deuce Transfer Case Overdrive?

From: ygmir (ygmir@onemain.com)
Date: Thu Apr 03 2003 - 16:04:39 PST


sounds like your original question about switching gears internally is lost.
I wish I knew, even if I wouldn't do it. It would be good info.
Henry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Ehle" <markehle@hotmail.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] Deuce Transfer Case Overdrive?

> Who said anything about 70? I just need 60-65.
>
> I doubt that 5-10 more mph will make much difference to the brakes. The
> truck would be safer on the highway if people did not have to slam on
their
> brakes to slow down behind my truck.
>
> So, nobody can answer my original question?
>
> Mark
>
>
> >From: "R. A. Moir aka RAM" <cyclopsram@starband.net>
> >To: <mil-veh@mil-veh.org> (Military Vehicles Mailing List)
> >Subject: Re: [MV] Deuce Transfer Case Overdrive?
> >Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 17:15:54 -0500
> >
> >And so again I say... when you go fast you have to stop...The late 1940's
> >designed brakes are not up to the task of stops from 70 mph in any safe
> >fashion... especially more than one.... And a single system to boot...
One
> >panic stop one blown line or whl cyl cup and piston and you have NO
> >brakes..
> >Now APB we need a dual system from you with M35A3 type stuff and Discs
and
> >calipers on all six spindles.... RAM
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "m35products" <m35prod@optonline.net>
> >To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 14:39
> >Subject: Re: [MV] Deuce Transfer Case Overdrive?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I recommend that you talk to any of my satisfied lock-out hub
customers.
> >Ask
> > > them how much more acceleration, and perceived power increase is
> >noticeable.
> > > Far be it from me to recommend them myself. I'm much too modest. apb
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Horrocks, Aaron" <ACHb@pge.com>
> > > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 2:07 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [MV] Deuce Transfer Case Overdrive?
> > >
> > >
> > > > In the highest gear the engine only has enough power to peak out at
> >55-ish
> > > on level ground. (Have you removed the governor yet? That big bolt
under
> >the
> > > pedal that restricts you from flooring it? That will help!) In Deuces,
> >the
> > > slightest grade and you need to downshift. Making the gears taller
will
> >give
> > > you a higher theoretical top speed, but the engine's not going to be
> >able
> >to
> > > push that much truck around in those gears, and it's going to strain
all
> >of
> > > the time.
> > > >
> > > > So, after you change the gears you'll need to do some serious engine
> >mods,
> > > or get another engine. I recommend keeping the current gears and
> >converting
> > > to gasoline and getting an EFI 472" Stroker HEMI from
> > > http://www.moparengineswest.com/ - The biggest question is do you want
> >less
> > > than 800HP, or more than 800HP? That should increase your top speed to
> >just
> > > about 160Mph or more. VROOM! That would be one heck of a sight to see!
> >It
> > > opens up all sorts of MV drag racing potential!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Aaron Horrocks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mark Ehle [mailto:markehle@hotmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:12 AM
> > > > To: Military Vehicles Mailing List
> > > > Subject: Re: [MV] Deuce Transfer Case Overdrive?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Guys -
> > > >
> > > > I can't speak for all M35's, but mine would go faster on level road
> >with
> > > an
> > > > overdrive gear. Like I said, I don't want to set the land speed
> >record,
> > > just
> > > > 5-10 more mph without winding up the engine.
> > > >
> > > > Folks, the question was not why would I want to, or would I be
guilty
> >of
> > > > screwing up a rare truck, or I could kill myself driving it, but
> >simply
> > > > could a person open the transfer case, re-arrange the existing gears

> >on
> > > the
> > > > shafts, and come up with 1:1 and overdrive.
> > > >
> > > > Just an idea. Nothing more.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks -
> > > >
> > > > Mark
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "ygmir" <ygmir@onemain.com>
> > > > >To: <mil-veh@mil-veh.org> (Military Vehicles Mailing List)
> > > > >Subject: Re: [MV] Deuce Transfer Case Overdrive?
> > > > >Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2003 09:05:01 -0800
> > > > >
> > > > >Seems like the one thing most overlook in the overdrive idea is the
> >lack
> > > of
> > > > >horsepower to pull those high gears.
> > > > >I notice with my M35A2 that there is just enough power to pull
slight
> > > > >inclines at speed in high gear. I can't think it would have the
power
> >to
> > > > >pull higher gears. And, maybe it's just where I live, but I don't
> >spend
> > > > >much
> > > > >time on level ground.......
> > > > >Just some thoughts.
> > > > >Henry
> > > > >
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Mark Ehle" <markehle@hotmail.com>
> > > > >To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > > > >Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 8:03 AM
> > > > >Subject: [MV] Deuce Transfer Case Overdrive?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello, all -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know that many of you die-hard deuce fans get ticked off at
> >people
> > > > > > re-running old threads, but I had an idea that I need to have
shot
> > > down.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I hardly ever use low on my transfer case. I did play with the
5th
> > > gear
> > > > >low
> > > > > > to 4th gear high thing and it was cool, but cumbersome. I do
> >spend
> > > time
> > > > >on
> > > > > > the highway with it and am tired of 55. I don't need super-low,
> >and
> >I
> > > > >don't
> > > > > > need 70+. All I want is 60-65.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have never torn into an M35 transfer case, but I am wondering
if
> >it
> > > > >would
> > > > > > be physically possible to swap gears around so that instead of a
> >1:1
> > > and
> > > > >1:2
> > > > > > ratio, you could get 1:1 and 2:1 overdrive.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Stupid idea?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Later -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mark Ehle
> > > > > > 1970 AMG M35A2
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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