Re: [MV] M35 air buzzer

From: Everette (194cbteng@pchnet.com)
Date: Sun May 18 2003 - 13:28:53 PDT


Joe I am in agreement with your post about CDLs

A few months ago I had long discussion with DOT in Tennessee about CDL
requirements.

Basic - vehicle operated on public highways and is over 26,000 GVW (gross
vehicle weight) requires CDL's to operate, type of braking system not
discussed.

My military vehicle has GVW of 37,000 and could have GVW in excess of
200,000 pounds and it has air brakes, truck is just like it was when U S
Army had it and it will NOT pass inspection as a commercial vehicle.
Because, sitting parked without any air pressure in brake system it will
roll; commercial vehicle is required to stop if brake system has no air. It
is my understanding the brake "Pots" on commercial vehicles are "double
acting" -- to wit - air and spring action inside pot applies brakes. My
M123a1 came with "single acting" brake "pots": no air no brakes.

By the way it has low air pressure lights and buzzer.

However we did not get that far. I do not get paid to operate vehicle, I
do not haul for public. No one operates this truck for hire. If I were to
haul something for someone they could not pay me anything - inspector said
not even furnish fuel. These stipulations put truck "recreational
vehicle" class. Same as big motor home and operator of motor home does not
have to have CDL's.

If I were to charge for hauling it would bring on lots more discussion,
brake system would have to be changed to meet commercial vehicle
requirements, air brake endorsement to CDLs not discussed. Then we talk
about "health cards", radar detectors not allowed in vehicle, log books,
etc.

Everette

----- Original Message -----
From: <MVTrucker@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [MV] M35 air buzzer

If I'm not mistaken, the CDL Air Brake Endorsement
is only required if you have a CDL and operate an
air brake equipped vehicle. Air brakes alone do not
require a CDL. A lot depends on how a vehicle is
tagged and used. Usually, vehicles tagged as Historical
are exempt from CDL requirements, at least that's the
way it is here in NJ.
Correct me if I'm wrong; I'm basing this on my
somewhat feeble memory.
Joe Young



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