Re: [MV] My mistake. Off-topic. Delete now.

From: Ryan Gill (rmgill@mindspring.com)
Date: Sun Jun 29 2003 - 18:25:23 PDT


At 6:16 PM -0400 6/29/03, Steve Grammont wrote:
> >Imagine tinkering with the carburetor and muffler on your car and
>>being charged with a crime that results in 10 years jail time. That's
>>what hackers rail against.
>
>Imagine tinkering with someone else's carburetor and muffler on their car
>without permission and the owner not having any recourse. That's what
>sofware developers (me) and sys admins rail against. It's my server, my
>code, my life's work... anybody that has a probelm with that can come and
>visit me in person and I'll be happy to straighten them out. Of course,
>hackers by their nature are cowards when it comes to confrontation with
>the people they are harming.

Of course, you now have the problem that if you set up a honey pot,
you're breaking federal law. If you try to figure out the source code
for a particular brand of router or security application to determine
it's security, you're breaking federal law. If you find a hole in a
security apparatus and report it, you could be breaking the law.

How would you like Cisco and the FBI coming and throwing you in jail
because you violated DMCA by reporting an error in the crypto scheme
of a new router product? Thats what the modern anti-hacking laws mean.

Also, I still don't buy that the 911 document was worth hundreds of
thousands of dollars.

>Just my friendly Sunday two bits worth! Yup, I am in a fine mood because
>I just heard a bearing grind up in my MULE about an hour ago and we MULE
>owners know how fun THAT is to change out :-/

Ouch!

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