Re: [MV] COMMON SENSE

From: International Movie Services (ims@telus.net)
Date: Wed Aug 06 2003 - 21:51:26 PDT


Gene:
Perhaps your Hummer has the "Vampire Syndrome?"
This is the fastest killer of Hummer transmissions and it is unfortunately a
common problem. In the transfer case on early military hummers there is a
cooling coil that circulates ATF under pressure from the tranny. There is a
design flaw that was corrected on later TH400's, that causes this coil to
crack. Now you are pressurizing your transfer case and causing ATF to be
forced through your vent lines into your geared hubs and eventually up into
the air cleaner. The displaced lubricant flows back into the transfer case
and into your tranny. The only symptom you get before tranny meltdown is a
mysterious loss of transmission fluid despite topping it up and no sign of
external leaks. Doesn't take long before your expensive TH400 can only be
used as a doorstop!
As far as the purchase of military surplus items is concerned unless there
is an implied or stated warranty ie:"Tested; New; Rebuilt; Guaranteed" any
financial compensation is solely dependent on the goodwill of the seller. I
have found most MV'ers bend over backwards to be fair, but Gentlemen's
agreements are predicated on the assumption that both parties are in fact
Gentlemen!
Cheers!
Ian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Pantano" <truks@cs.quik.com>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 7:40 PM
Subject: [MV] COMMON SENSE

> Hi ALL...
> It has been a while since there has been a "real" discussion on the
> "hobby"..
> Here is a good subject for everyone to get involved in....and say what you
> think.. This concerns some of the things we all sell and buy..and
sometimes
> get "stuck" with..
> Mostly it involves common sense..and a bit of a gamblers mentality..
> Here is a true story....About a year ago..I sold an engine for a
friend..it
> was a 151A2 engine...been rebuilt at BARSTOW for the Marines..and is one
of
> the high output engines they had built - different cam and head...
> I can't remember what Jim sold it for.?/ $750 or $850...does not really
> matter..
> This engine had been from Barstow to the Rocky Mountain Marines at the old
> Ammunition Plant and Chemical Plant known as Rocky Mountain Arsenal..It
had
> been over 20 years in inside and outside storage...
> I delivered it to the buyer...not an easy chore really..but..for another
MV
> nut..no big deal. Months later, the guy mails me and says that there is a
> Birds nest in the cylinder.(and other problems from the animal living in
> there)... Okay...now what..? Then he says he wants $200 back for the
work.??
> again..?? for what...?
> Of course, the seller - Jim --is he responsible for this.?? Not in my
> opinion....
> Am I..?? Not in my lifetime...!!
> Well..-- behold !! Today, I find out that the transmission in my HMMWV may
> need to be rebuilt..this costs over $1000... I bought this engine and
> transmission from a dealer here in Colorado. Now - the shoe is on the
other
> foot.!! Do I go to the dealer and say I want the money for rebuilding the
> transmission..and I paid a damsite more than $850 for the unit..it cost me
> $3500...
> Heck NO....I don't say a word to the guy the unit was purchased from. He
did
> not cause whatever is wrong.. it is a Government Surplus unit - like the
> 151A2 engine. We all take our chances with this old cr..I mean stuff..
> Suck it up and go on is what I say..and what I have always done for the
last
> 50 years.....
> What is the consensus of opinion on this guys..say your piece !!
> Carry on..Gene
>
>
>
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