From: Nigel Hay MILWEB \(www.milweb.net\) (Nigel@milweb.net)
Date: Wed Aug 06 2003 - 23:37:42 PDT
Of course - the wider question is - who assumes liability for NOS parts? the
original manufacturer? the re-seller? the end user? How would one prove
how they had been distributed - where does the liability stop?????
Nige
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nigel Hay MILWEB (www.milweb.net)" <Nigel@milweb.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MV] COMMON SENSE
> I had problems with the sale of my M16 halftrack.
> The guy who came to see it and gave a deposit "subject to assurances as to
> the condition of the engine" ( he wrote it on the reciept) proved to be a
> real nightmare. It hadnt run for 5 years and when my friend got to look at
> to get it ready to move it he identified there were valve problems etc and
> we decided to hand the bloke his money back as we he woudlnt have been
> happy. But no that wasnt good enough for this nightmare buyer - he sent
the
> check back uncashed, demanded proffesssional engineers inspection etc etc
> plus a retention of a large % of the money subject to the engine being
> proffessionally rebuilt at his direction. This saga went on and on, with
> him threatening to sue me for his "considerable expenses" - he saw it once
> and made dozens of irritating phone calls - and demanded"compensation for
> his dissapointment". He did finally accept his cheque back ( if i could be
> compensated for every dissapointment I had in life I would be a very rich
> man) he claimed I had no right to pull out of the deal as we had a
> "contract" - this was rich coming from an estate agent - in the UK they
mess
> clients around for a living and have gazumping off to an art form.It was a
> private sale and there was no contract.
> All in all I am so glad I pulled out as apart from his attitude, he would
> have been constantly finding fault with something over 60 years old and I
> was sorry enough to see the M16 go , but would have been sorry to see it
go
> to such a bad home.
> Ironically, a MILWEB customer mentioned to me he had had a run in with the
> same guy and had refused to deal with him.
> But when I sold the Stuart, no problems, the buyer sent his mechanics down
> the day before to get it running and everything packed inside so it was
> ready to load when the truck came.
> Of course - the wider question is - who assumes liability for NOS parts?
the
> original manufaturer? the re-seller? the end user? How would one prove
how
> they had been distributed - where does the liability stop?
> Nige
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene Pantano" <truks@cs.quik.com>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:40 AM
> Subject: [MV] COMMON SENSE
>
>
> > Hi ALL...
> > It has been a while since there has been a "real" discussion on the
> > "hobby"..
> > Here is a good subject for everyone to get involved in....and say what
you
> > think.. This concerns some of the things we all sell and buy..and
> sometimes
> > get "stuck" with..
> > Mostly it involves common sense..and a bit of a gamblers mentality..
> > Here is a true story....About a year ago..I sold an engine for a
> friend..it
> > was a 151A2 engine...been rebuilt at BARSTOW for the Marines..and is one
> of
> > the high output engines they had built - different cam and head...
> > I can't remember what Jim sold it for.?/ $750 or $850...does not really
> > matter..
> > This engine had been from Barstow to the Rocky Mountain Marines at the
old
> > Ammunition Plant and Chemical Plant known as Rocky Mountain Arsenal..It
> had
> > been over 20 years in inside and outside storage...
> > I delivered it to the buyer...not an easy chore really..but..for another
> MV
> > nut..no big deal. Months later, the guy mails me and says that there is
a
> > Birds nest in the cylinder.(and other problems from the animal living in
> > there)... Okay...now what..? Then he says he wants $200 back for the
> work.??
> > again..?? for what...?
> > Of course, the seller - Jim --is he responsible for this.?? Not in my
> > opinion....
> > Am I..?? Not in my lifetime...!!
> > Well..-- behold !! Today, I find out that the transmission in my HMMWV
may
> > need to be rebuilt..this costs over $1000... I bought this engine and
> > transmission from a dealer here in Colorado. Now - the shoe is on the
> other
> > foot.!! Do I go to the dealer and say I want the money for rebuilding
the
> > transmission..and I paid a damsite more than $850 for the unit..it cost
me
> > $3500...
> > Heck NO....I don't say a word to the guy the unit was purchased from. He
> did
> > not cause whatever is wrong.. it is a Government Surplus unit - like the
> > 151A2 engine. We all take our chances with this old cr..I mean stuff..
> > Suck it up and go on is what I say..and what I have always done for the
> last
> > 50 years.....
> > What is the consensus of opinion on this guys..say your piece !!
> > Carry on..Gene
> >
> >
> >
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