From: Bruce Beattie (bruce@eecs.berkeley.edu)
Date: Thu Aug 07 2003 - 13:26:29 PDT
Somehow I don't think there will be any problem getting enough over there.
Sand, that is.....
I wonder what the weight difference between the desert fine sand and say
beach sand like we have over here is?
Bruce MVPA 23824
Bobby Joe Pendleton II wrote:
> you can also double wall it and put sand in between the walls
>
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> Subject: Re: [MV] Cold roll
>
> > Was it the stated purpose of the gun trucks to use
> > cold roll steel to stop RPG rounds????!
> >
> > I suppose if the angle of attack was greater than
> > 75-80 degrees, the angle of attack deflection factor
> > would likely stop most RPG's. Better than nothing.
> > However, to think our military would use steel plate
> > to stop RPG's would be wrong.
> >
> > You have to consider the military, anyone's military,
> > is often forced to use make-shift materials to fill a
> > void in an urgent circumstance. The ability to
> > provide some protection, probably about 50-60%
> > effective protection from most small arms, up to .308
> > cal.(7.62x51) is better than nothing and it achieved
> > with 1/4" cold roll, angle of attack not withstanding.
> > AK47- 7.62X39 rounds are less powerful and likely the
> > protection would be somewhere around 80% or better
> > depending on the range and angle...angle being the
> > most important. Sure, AP rounds are going to punch
> > 1/4", no doubt about it, but again it's better than
> > nothing and I think that was the original intent.
> > There is also the concealment factor, that helps too.
> > Anything to bring the odds up is good, right?
> >
> > Ceramic steel armor plate would be far better, but a
> > little hard to buy off the shelf today.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents worth and I have shot a lot of steel
> > plates with a lot of various rounds!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Gavin Broad <invest@portsmouth-mann.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Chaps,
> > >
> > > I would be very interested to hear what protection
> > > cold-rolled steel
> > > will provide against an RPG round .........and I
> > > want to hear from
> > > people who KNOW, NOT from those with an opinion.
> > >
> > > As a qualified metallurgist ( albeit in a former
> > > incarnation), I can
> > > only imagine that it would be like holing up a
> > > newspaper, when, before,
> > > one only had arsewipe.
> > >
> > > Just a thought.
> > > Gavin in yet-to-be-blown-up Bangkok.
> > > Gav.
> > >
> > >
> > >
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