Re: [MV] [MV]

From: Greg Booth (gbooth@kc.rr.com)
Date: Wed Dec 03 2003 - 19:20:13 PST


Electric trailer brakes you can add a breakaway device it consists of a
small battery and if your trailer comes off the hitch the battery will apply
the electric brakes. Most commercial trailers have them it is a DOT
requirement.
Greg Booth MVPA # 24369
1969 M274-A5
1952 M38A1
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Beattie" <bruce@eecs.berkeley.edu>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] [MV]

> I would think that after parking and before turning engine off (and
> electricity),
> you would go set the hand brake.
>
> With a heavy load and surge brakes, it might start tugging at your truck
> enough before you could get out and set the hand brake.
>
> The assumption here is that when the trailer is tugging at the truck, it
is a
> slow
> steady tug, and not a jerk, thereby not enough to fully activate the surge
> brake
> mechanisim.
>
> Disclaimer. I have never seen surge brakes, this is just speculation.
>
> You all DO have hand brakes don't you?
>
> Bruce MVPA 23824
>
> Glenn Shaw wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > How do you set electric brakes when the trailer is parked?
> >
> > Glenn S with HMT with surge brakes.
> >
> > The reasoning was that not only could
> > you not apply from the cab but they could not be set when you parked.
> >
> > Interestingly I'm told that the trailer -rental- people are exempt. You
> > can -rent- a trailer with surge brakes and use it in your business, you
> > just
> > can't -own- that same trailer. And I'm sure politics had nothing to do
> > with
> > that regulation.
> >
> > Glenn.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <TacticalTruck@aol.com>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:07 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MV] [MV]
> >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 12/2/03 3:47:59 PM, JPace@merchantsinfo.com writes:
> > >
> > > << converting a M105 trailer with air/hydraulic
> > >
> > > brakes to use a surge brake actuator as found on M101 and M116
> > trailers?
> > >>
> > >
> > > I did this to a trailer similar to a M105. I used an actuator from
> > > www.draw-tite.com. It worked like a charm. It was for my neighbor to
> > pull
> > behind his
> > > civi truck. I also plumbed in a line lock controlled by the backup
> > lights
> > so he
> > > could back the trailer w/o actuating the trailer brakes. Be aware that
> > > hydraulic surge brakes have been outlawed in some states. I think they
> > are
> > superior to
> > > electric brakes but they have been outlawed because you cannot operate
> > them
> > > independently from inside the cab of your tow vehicle. If you have a
> > heavy
> > > trailer and you stop on an incline with limited traction, the trailer
> > could drag
> > > you back down the hill.
> > > Jeff
> > > TacticalTruck.com
> > >
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