Re: [MV] Rear lockout hubs

From: Steve & Jeannie Keith (cckw@comcast.net)
Date: Sat May 22 2004 - 19:32:28 PDT


This list is to help people who own HMVs. It is not to try to put something
over on them. I have listed my experience at trying to disengage one rear
axle on a deuce. Now the deuce I was doing this on was a CCKW, not
an M35. That is why I suggested someone thinking about your product
try removing the interaxle drive shaft before they invested in your new
product. I am sure you have created a nice well built product. However
if the application is wrong, then what...? I have no idea what will happen
with an M35. It is heavier than a CCKW on the one hand, but has larger
tires with possibly the same overall ground pressure on the other hand.

I have driven my primary CCKW over 50,000+ miles myself with no
drivetrain problems. I have tried a lot of things to improve gas mileage
or reduce friction and binding. I freely offer my experience and advice
in this and other HMV forums. I am selling nothing, making nothing from
this time spent giving my best unbiased advise.

I have questioned other HMV ideas that I have been tried and probably within
a year, you will see one of my "experiments" that will not work in MV mag
because people have said it will work but w/o pictures. I will take my time
to install a different transmission temporarly in a truck so that I may take
pictures to prove it is an impossible (to me) or at best dangerous
conversion.
I call them as I see/experience them. I have no axe to grind or $ to make. I
will write a book someday, but for now all my advice is free and only
advice.

I do not know you or 99% of the people in here. I was offering my advice.
You took the time to engineer a device based upon request(s) made to you.
If these people did not try this for a long period or at all, then there may
be
a problem. That is why I said:

> > I would STRONGLY recommend that you remove the inter-axle
> > shaft and drive your M35 around especially on paved roads that
> > twist the truck somewhat and stop and try to pull out especially
> > if you have a cargo truck.

Thank You
Steve AKA Dr Deuce

----- Original Message -----
From: "m35products" <m35prod@optonline.net>
To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MV] Rear lockout hubs

> Dr.:
>
> If you ever decide to go into the advertising business, please don't do it
> for my company. Thank you for IMMEDIATELY letting everyone know that you
> find a problem with my current product offering, without a shred of
> documented evidence, or a field trial.
>
> I find it amazing (and I have said this before) that the moment I release
a
> new product, there is a hue and cry from the great unwashed multitudes
that
> either the product is no good, or there is an easier way, or it costs too
> much....yada yada yada.
>
> Dr, I have NEVER seen a message from you criticising any else's products.
> Why is that?
>
> I have another job. It's called being retired. I don't need to sell this
> stuff, and I could certainly use a break from defending myself from the
> professional naysayers.
>
> So, "Dr" : PLEASE don't buy anything from me. You're right, it's crap.
> Thanks for reminding us.
>
> Arthur P. Bloom
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve & Jeannie Keith" <cckw@comcast.net>
> To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 7:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [MV] Rear lockout hubs
>
>
> > I would STRONGLY recommend that you remove the inter-axle
> > shaft and drive your M35 around especially on paved roads that
> > twist the truck somewhat and stop and try to pull out especially
> > if you have a cargo truck.
> >
> > Years ago I tried removing the interaxle shaft on my CCKW and
> > found that the truck would get stuck very easily on paved roads.
> > Coming out of my driveway on the side of a hill, the truck could not
> > pullout up the hill. I determined that disabling the front axle was
> > more important than the rear axle fix. I have driven my CCKW
> > over 50,000 miles since I have owned it without any rear end
> > or transfercase problems. I also am meticulous about having a
> > matched set of tires on the back, that like an M35 the CCKW
> > is in 8WD all the time.
> >
> > Steve AKA Dr Deuce
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "m35products" <m35prod@optonline.net>
> > To: "Military Vehicles Mailing List" <mil-veh@mil-veh.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 6:50 PM
> > Subject: [MV] Rear lockout hubs
> >
> >
> > > Friends:
> > >
> > > Never let it be said that we at Inter Agency Motor Pool are not
> responsive
> > > to consumer needs!!! (Begging, pleading and whining work, too.)
> > >
> > > A couple of you guys asked if we would sell just one rear axle shaft,
> and
> > > one rear lockout hub, as a less expensive way to achieve the rear-tire
> > > rolling-friction reduction. The answer is "Sure!".
> > >
> > > One rear axle shaft, and one lockout hub: $495 plus shipping.
> > >
> > > Please be aware that in the near future, we will have the jack-shaft
> > > disconnect project ready for market, at which time you would need two
> > shafts
> > > and two hubs to achieve the best possible solution.
> > >
> > > Arthur P. Bloom, Pres
> > >
> > > www.M35products.com
> > >
> > > Toll-free 866-749-0100
> > >
> > > Visa/MC accepted
> > >
> > >
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