Re: [MV] Movement to ban private ownership of MVs gains momentum

From: Bruce C. Beattie (bruce@eecs.berkeley.edu)
Date: Fri Sep 10 2004 - 12:07:29 PDT


Hi Steve,
    There is a lot of truth in what you say, but I still think that
Davids point in being keenly observant regarding our conduct
with our vehicles, is extremely important.
Bruce MVPA 23824

Steve Grammont wrote:

> David,
>
> With all due respect (because you are certainly worthy of heaps of it IMHO),
>
> >Yes, I could hit delete, but why should I have to? Why should I (and
> >countless others) have to suffer and work because an ignorant, arrogant
> >few believe themselves to be above the rules?
>
> This has been gone over time and time again, whether the off topic banter
> happens to be about politics, guns, or haggas. The simple answer is that
> vibrant and intelligent on topic lists always have off topic content. It
> isn't about arrogance, it's about Human nature. You can't have a vibrant
> discussion medium with a core group of people that doesn't stray off
> topic from time to time.
>
> >Kiss your MVs goodbye boys, the dopes among us will undo our hobby.
>
> Personally, this is partly why I counter off topic posts written by right
> wing posters (especially the rabid paranoid ones). If people perceive
> all MVers as being out of touch extremists... THAT will undo our hobby
> quicker than anything. You can stop for that stop sign, not park in the
> handicap space, and dutifully follow the rules of the road... but if you
> are perceived as a nut... laws will be created and passed to save the
> country from the "nuts" who drive them.
>
> BTW, if there were off topic posts written by left wingers I would
> counter those as well. But since I've never once in 4 years seen one on
> this list, I've never had the chance.
>
> Steve
>
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